2012 Arguing in Reverse. Listen
2012 is a non-subject in reverse.
In all of the hoopla about 2012 and the end of the Mayan calendar, it is almost non-existent in reverse. I never get a really good reversal that cooberates the 2012 information. The subject invariably goes to Planet X and how this event is what is going to help us to get out of the reptilian-controlled prison and into healing and a new life here on Earth.
My husband, Nick was reading the book Apocalypse 2012, A Scientific Investigation into Civilization’s End by Lawrence E. Joseph. The Author goes into a lot of data about how things are heating up in our solar system and that there are potential Earth changes in the works. Here is the one reversal that I got from this Author when he makes a brief passing reference to an incoming body into our solar system. He was speaking with George Noory on Coast to Coast.
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Reverse:
I will tell them, it’s the source
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I have to admit, I was becoming a bit peevish about all these changes that are being documented in this book working up to the 2012 climax date. He was not talking about PX at all. There are three of us in the room while we are having this little discussion. In reverse, we are also having a discussion:
Forward:
Reverse:
Nick:
And know what she said?
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Forward:
Nick: and our solar system is heating up.
Peggy: Why is that?
Reverse:
Peggy: Bad’s the Owl. (Owl is the number one metaphor for reptilians)
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Nick: It’s the source, Orion (The reptilian race is from Orion)
Forward:
Nick:
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Reverse:
Nick: He’s the One holding it; move up (I believe he is referring to the One).
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Forward:
Nick
Reverse:
Serene’s life, hidden answers
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Forward:
10 Peggy asking what is causing all these changes.
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Reverse:
Peggy
Save all talk, connect it up (my RS obsession)
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Forward:
Nick talking about the sun affecting everything
I’m asking what is affecting the sun.
Reverse:
Universe kept and lost it. (I believe Nick is referring to what we had and then lost.)
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Forward:
I’m becoming a bit testy since there still is no reference to PX.
Reverse:
He’s no prophet, look One. (look to the Creator, the One)
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Forward:
Nick, based on the sun
Reverse:
Awesome, we’ll shift this hell. (I jump in on the word hell but I think that is the last word in this phrase.)
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Forward:
Does this have anything to do with PX?
Reverse:
Just sneak in.
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Forward:
Reverse:
That’s when you answer, the law of One.
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Forward:
Nick says later on he gets into the incoming planets.
Reverse:
Why he lose net, Peggy ignored him. (Unless there was talk of PX, I was unimpressed.)
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Forward:
Reverse:
Profit niggers, me know that, they’re hiding (I would never use this language in forward speech. In reverse, there is absolutely no political correctness. It is about communication!)
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Reverse:
Yeah, he had censor
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Not a peep about 2012, entering the galactic center, or the end of the Mayan calendar. I have other clips of people discussing 2012 which I will also post and again, it is either ignored, or called a false event.
The issue is always Planet X in reverse. Planet X to shred the net and get us out of the prison.
So this is really the true test of reverse speaking. We have 5 years before 2012. If there is no PX and we go into some kind of alternative reality at the end of that year, I will concede. But I don’t think so.
Were not the Mayans heavily influnced by reptilian like gods? 2012 could have been something they told them to look into so they thought there was something to it. Maybe the NWO is what will be fully completed by 2012 if nothing stops it.
Here’s some reverses I forgot to post so I’ll just add them here:
F: Was Hurricane Katrina created by weather manipulation?
R:(My name) remember the web near on the reversal.
F: Was Hurricane Katrina a ritual sacrifice?
R: Sacrifice for asshole looshing /listening to your reversal.
F: Are the reps listening to the reversals?
R: Most reversals spied on now.
F: Was the bridge collapse a ritual sacrifice?
R: Sacrifice for asshole looshing.
F: Did any of the people who died in the bridge collapse get eaten by reptilians?
R: Snail were right by eating flesh-loosh the pain it is.
F: Do many world wide accidents result in feeding frenzies by the reps?
R: Snail without these/meat/are we in division
F: Are the reptilians ever going to be destroyed?
R: When the earth no longer provides meals for them.
F: Is Planet X near?
R: Hearing scared enough
F: What is Planet X really?
R: Heal earth scare them off.
i have a feeling about 2012. think about this… everything the mayans ever predicted, down to the hour, has come true. 2012 would be the only event that does not commit to prophecy like everything else. thats too convenient. not only that, but then why would many other races also speak of 2012? some of these people also have record of planet x, passing by in the past. i am not sure if the mayans have record of it, but i think that they would, since those others do.
what exactly is supposed to happen then, basically all the peoples say we “wake up”. maybe the reps and powers that be see 2012 as the deadline, before we wake up and see them, since they dont know exactly when planet x comes. i bet now that the word of planet x is increasing, theyre spazzing. all their precise calculations mean nothing when no one gives away an exact measurement! …losers
SB
Love your reversals.
Starr,
I have a friend who is an archeologist. I have assisted him with comments on religion in a couple of books he has written. He studied the Mayan culture closely and went to the area for a closer look. His response to the Mayan calendar is that it is representative of nothing less than a time loop. In other words, time travels from the centre outwards then loops back to the middle.
Here are my thoughts. The reptilian race is responsible for the very existence of time and I believe they have had us trapped in time longer than we can imagine. I believe they have the ability to keep us in a loop, ie. they hoped that by the end of this cycle they could actually take us back to the beginning and go for another cycle….just like in the past. They cannot, for some reason do it this time for time is running out with PX ruining the show. Just think….voila, suddenly you are back ,God knows where, doing it for them all over again.
Peggy,
I got another reversal from Joseph Lawrence on PX after his forward comments that he had spoken to a Russian astronomer who had calculated that a large body was heading this way. He said in reverse..” She nears, while, there’s no time”
I don’t think we have long to wait.
thats interesting james… and makes perfect sense. thank you for enlightenng me. and, lol.. id rather not think about the time repetition. in star trek, ive heard of this. they called it a Mobius - where time becomes a loop. wow… im soo glad planet x is going to tear up the time construct. ive never resonated with time… always late and if a hour goes by, it usually feels like a few minutes and vice versa. anyone else like this? times nearly ending, for a consciousness rising out of desperate state!
SB,
You’re reversals are terrific. Keep up the good work. You will find this tool just remarkable.
James,
I think you are spot on with the time loop. We just go around and around. I know people put a lot of stock in the Mayan calendar, but think about the feathered serpent which features heavily in their symbols. I don’t think any race here has been spared their influence. I do think that the indigenous races were very close to nature and that was their power against the reps, so they all had to be brought down, one by one all over the planet.
At that point they were then more easily controlled as they were forced into economic slavery, driven from nature etc.
I know you got a very important reversal from Lawrence Joseph also. The censoring of PX is just remarkable.
Starr,
The One heard our collective cry for help and help is incoming.
James,
I just did a little reversing about what you said about the Mayan Calendar being the beginning of a new time loop controlled by the reps.
When I said “James thinks this is the start of a new time loop controlled by the reptilians” I said in reverse:
He smashes it-nice!
I think that is the key to this 2012 stuff. Just another beginning of another reptilian controlled time cycle. But PX is on it’s way!
Good work James. Brilliant.
Yes, time modeling. I’m a visual person so I’ll use models to describe time. I think of time as we know it in two ways. First, the Möbius time model which is two dimensional with only one surface and one edge. But, when two Möbius strips are glued together, it creates a Klein shaped sphere or a bottle with no edges and two surfaces. (Look these up on Wikipedia) The Klein 3D model looks exactly like a ‘time loop’. Only one way in and out at the top of the bottle, easy to pull a net over the top. So I think the 3D model of the Möbius presents a perfect image for what is happening on the moon which is a storage locker for souls and the Klein bottle defines the reincarnation cycle on Earth, with a net for capture and return to the moon for storage. So, James, perhaps this is what your archeologist would have painted of his idea.
The other way to look at time is ‘time traveling’. James posted a story in another part of the blog about his trip to his opal mine and how he instantaneously moved from one point on the road to another 3 miles away. This is time traveling (I’m not assuming lost time as in ‘abduction’ stuff). So the second way to look at time is ‘projective’. Meaning, you can move dimensionally or interdimensionally. This is scared geometry. James experience was an example of mathematics or geometry being used to move or project in space regardless of the time model. ‘Time’ was handled or managed to allow James to move all of his atoms instantaneously on the ‘plane of infinity’ in his 3D world to another point on the plane.
I invite you to watch an animated version of
“Building a Klein Bottle” in http://plus.maths.org/issue26/features/mathart/Build.html
Zerph,
Your analysis of time utilizing two attached Mobius strips to form the shape of a Klein (3D) bottle is impelling. The presentation of the soul storage on the moon integrates well with reversals from Peggy’s old blog where she said there was soul storage on the moon. I remember these reversals fairly well and they detailed how the souls were trapped there and knew that they were on the moon. I remember one specifically where the soul could actually ‘look’ out of it’s confinement area out into space and the surrounding lunar landscape. These were interesting reversals and tie in well with what you are saying. However, recent reversals indicate something different happening. Peggy, comments?
Thanks Zerph for that visual diagram. I’m going to check the website sent by Manel to get even more of a visual. But I agree that time manipulation is a very big factor within the net and the use of mind control elements to keep almost everyone asleep has given these reptilians the advantage of managing this reality without many having a clue.
Atomic,
The moon and Mars are completely owned and controlled by the reptilian race. I know the net encompasses the moon and I think it actually eminates in part, from Mars.
I know that people are taken there in their astral bodies which are just as physical as our physical bodies in that dimension. They are either killed again and put in meat lockers, or kept in prisons.
As for souls or spirits, I do think that once the astral body, which would appear to us as a spirit body, is killed, the real spirit is able to get out of the net and is no longer in prison.
I don’t believe the reps were ever able to manage to hold onto our true spirits, only our astral bodies.
This may be different from what I said in the past, but as I’ve listened over the years, I’ve had to change some of what I thought was true.
I’ve heard often that those who were killed and replaced with clones are now with the One, healed and preparing to help us as a huge spirit army.
Peggy,
So what Zerph is referring to could be the astral bodies rather than the souls (in terms of being held prisoner on the moon) for reinjection into the reincarnation loop? So this would mean that at least in times past they didn’t kill everyone in the astral as they would have escaped that way. But, a conundrum presents itself. The reps main purpose is to have a loosh farm. To aquire loosh would require killing the astral humans. However, killing the astral humans sets them free as indicated and they can no longer be placed in the reincarnation loop, i.e., no food. This is becoming kind of confusing.
When I think of loosh, I think more in terms of the energy we give off from our emotions such as fear, anger, etc. The actual bodies (astral and physical) are the meat. Anyone ever see the children’s movie Monsters, Inc.? A whole lot of truth in that ‘innocent’ little kids flick.
I did a reversal on myself asking about my son (who I think was replaced with a clone while at the hospital - his birthmark filmed at the delivery is a mirror image of what it is now) anyway, the reversal said “It wants the loosh. It eats it. He wants it. He’s going to eat all of me. He needs it. He eats me.” Unsettling, indeed.
atomic - furthermore, as Peggy said above, when those humans are ‘killed’ in the astral, they are then released from the net. Most, if not all, I would believe, have the option to join with the current Alliance Forces. Conundrum indeed. I have a reversal, a rather shocking one in that I was not expecting it whatsoever, that tells me about a friend who ‘died’ over 20 years ago, and who I would be reminded of constantly as a famous actor has some of his characteristics, said he was a knight in the ‘army’. Peggy did this reversal with me. What I had intended to be a very personal rs to me turned into a disclosure that made a lot of sense in light of all that is happening in the paradigm AND what was happening with my connection with that person.
ps - I think the repts know they are doomed and are really messing up with their protocol. Plus there is some evidence they are trying to ’spirit’ some humans away to provide the ’seeds’ for their next planetary endeavor, be it here or somewhere else. (witness FTG). It really is hard to understand it all, and I don’t think we have all the information. There are probably key pieces of info left out that tie the process together, maybe because of security reasons, or just falling thru the cracks reasons.
turtlegurl - My heart goes out to you about your son. that is one hard thing to hear. Knowing that he is probably with The Alliance Forces now, maybe that will help.
David Icke’s Tales from the Time loop talks about this 2012 loop as well. Even if he did get influenced by the reps eventually who knows they might just be into bragging about it.
Just wanted to add the whole deju vu thing could be yourself telling yourself you are looping you’ve done this before even if it is a new event in this life.
I mean deja vu ;)
Another thing came to mind I should really learn to wait and post it all together LOL. I had this dream I was out in the middle of the street people were sceaming and running but I didn’t know what from. Anyway I just became lucid in the dream and I said: What is 2012? I got thrown into a black void and shown a whirlpool in the void going round and round it was looping itself.
Zerph,
Your example also shows the relationship between time and space. Just as there is no time there is no distance. What does this really mean? The great distances we travel are also a lie. It is part of a lucid dream state as in the end there is consciousness only. Dealing with what we call reality in this 3D state will be dealt with very different terminology and understanding eventually, I’m sure.
Remember “The Matrix” when the cat walked by the door twice during a glitch in the matrix?
Turtlegirl,
I empathize. There will be many confronting things to have to manage in RS. However, do console yourself. I am sure he is fine and in the end all will be fine.
Turtlegirl,
Reverse your son. Even if he is not ‘talking’ in sentences and only making noises. It is fascinating as you will likely hear words formed. Children are so loving and honest in reversals that it is wonderful practice. As to what you picked up, this might be EVP interference in your RS and they targeted your love for your baby so they could mess with you. Listen more than once before you come to any conclusions is my honest opinion of RS analysis.
James, lucid dreams should be its own catagory here on the blog!
More reversing for your analyzing pleasure:
F: Is 2012 a time loop set up by the reptilians to keep us enslaved?
R: Yes the elf set us up big to snare us but without us their mouths will not eat oh you’ll see.
F: Is 2012 a reptilian creation?
R: Yes snail but without loosh you’ll see.
F: What is 2012?
R: Alien thought
F: Are there souls being contained on the moon?
R: They absorb through there.
F: Is the moon and mars controlled by the reptilians?
R: Snail but without loosh they’ll not be there.
F: Are souls finally being able to leave the net?
R: Being aloud closer
F: Are any souls back with the one?
R: No with the one I seen it here.
F: Is the one here right now?
R: Yeah everyone knows it.
F: Are all the souls that left vehicles (aka bodies) still stuck on the moon?
R: Them that are not asleep free the rest still are.
F: Are we ever going to be set free from this place?
R: Snail them fear us
i love your reversals, sb… always cheer me up. great job, and keep it up!
sb,
You are so proficient with your reversing…I wish I was better. I guess it will take time to develop my ability to understand the accent of the reverse language.
zerph,
I did finish quite a bit of reversals on him and he (4) just speaks his thoughts in reverse. Here are some:
-”Everyones going to look at me”…very sing-songy and cute and he is quite the hamm
-”Play with the black man”…this was said in reverse about a minute before he said it in forward speak. It relates to a video game that he enjoys playing that he calls “Black guy game” - his character in the game is a black man (CJ)
-”Love me love me love me love me”…he was ’singing’ I love you I love you I love you…” in forward and it was “love me” in reverse - how cute.
-”You musta lost it”…said in regards to wanting to watch Tarzan. Said just as I was walking over to the dvds- before I really had trouble finding it!
So far I have not gotten any reversals from him indicating he is anything but a normal preschool boy & I love him no less, clone or no. I just now include, in my prayers, “any child in any other realm that is mine” (well, I pray for all the innocent children that are harmed and held captive by those evil ones) and I pray for his comfort and protection, etc. as well.
Hey I’m just learning myself turtlegurl just put some time into it and you’ll get better and better at it. No one can be Peggy though ;)
Atomic,
This time now is different from the recent past from my understanding. In the past, people died, some were eaten, mostly astrally, some were moved into different worlds within the astral world, whether a heaven world or a lower astral like where Francis Haley and others that I was able to talk to were. They spent lots of time there until they would be taken out and reinserted into the physical with a new body. There may have been some that got out of the net in their astral bodies and were free, but I don’t know about that.
Once they were killed in the astral, they were set free and out of this bad Disneyland and out of the net.
But the reps were not as numerous as now. Knowing that PX was incoming they created and sent many, maybe millions of hybrids here to help with the cloning and controlling of people in exchange for the hybrids running amok and doing whatever horrible thing they wanted to people. As long as they did their jobs, the reps didn’t care how many kids the hybrids tortured.
Now they want to kill as many people and clones as possible for the meat collection since they know they are getting kicked off. All of those whom they have killed in the physical and astral are out of this mess, but they have also agreed to help us and I have heard them called the shining army. It is a great spirit army dedicated to helping the One set us free.
No soul is captured from what I have heard. Only astral bodies which to us could seem like a soul. But our spirits are beyond the reach of these reptilians. They are powerful in their manipulations, but they are ants in the One’s back yard.
So yes, they control physical and astral life, but not our spirits.
Turtlegurl,
You are brave to be ready to hear things about loved ones. Just know that all of our beloved family and friends are fine, even if they are now replaced with a clone. Finding out things that I have in this past year has almost put me over the edge. The One always gives strength and help when we most need it. We will all be reunited. No one ever ceases.
Roxanne,
That was an incredible RS find about your friend who is a “knight in the spirit army.”
There are so many elements and pieces to this puzzle. We are just beginning to put it together, but it’s a start.
Soon, all of us will understand.
SB,
David still has a lot of good information and I think the time loop is very accurate. But yes, the ayawaska did let the reptilian voice influence David’s last work.
SB,
Wow you should ask yourself about that dream and reverse.
Zerph,
A dream category…good idea. Nick, my husband is a very big dreamer and lucid dreamer. We reverse his dreams a lot and they usually always add light to what we know in reverse.
SB,
I’m just blown away by your reversals!
Turtlegurl,
The reversals of your son are sweet. Just love him as either way, he is your son.
SB,
Well, I’m blushing, but that isn’t really true. I’ve put a gagillion hours into this and I still hear things wrong. I just have done it so long, that I have accumulated enough information to get a picture of things even if it isn’t nearly complete.
Talking to Francis and the other spirit people gave me the head start though about the manipulations on the other side. That is how I really began to question everything that I had thought was true. They told me in not so many words, that their astral world was not a place of learning but a prison with guards who rape little children captured there. That was the real start of my quest.
But thanks.
turtlegurl - awwww, what a sweet and loving baby boy… thanks for posting those reversals.:-)
sb - lovin those reversals! wow. you rock!
Peggy - Thanks for your increasingly indefatigable efforts! You who are reversing know how much time it takes to get a clear reversal. Peggy spends hours every day, usually in the wee morning hours, deciphering reversals. By the way, Peggy, how’s your painting coming? love ya, Roxanne
I guess I am just trying to get my understanding up on this whole thing. sb, your reversals are interesting in that there is a distinction between those who are “awake” vs. those who are still “asleep”. It would seem from your reversals that those who are awake are able to free themselves from the net while those “asleep” are not able to. But, Peggy makes a clear distinction between “astral body” and “spirit”. I guess this is important to me because I want to understand the big picture of how this thing really works. To me, it would make more sense for the One to be intervening if it is closer to what sb says because more people would be trapped in this endless loop, i.e., they would have to be “awake” to get out and that could be one reason why the reps fear us waking up so much. Oops, there goes the food. As it was in the past, so very few people ever were “awake”, that very, very, few escaped at all. This kept a recycled and reincarnated steady supply of meat and loosh available. If, in the past, we would escape with the simple requirement that we be killed in the astral it would seem that there would be fewer reincarnated souls to feed off of. But, Peggy states that there were far fewer at that time, so killings in the astral may have been a rare event. Is it possible that the “awake” ones are forming this ’spirit army?’ Also, I think that Peggy stated in another post that the One may actually be awakening a lot of those that are asleep. To me ‘awake’ would mean ‘awareness of one’s true environment’, so this could be anyone that exists in spirit after leaving the astral body, at least with the One involved, as he seems to be. I guess this will all be a bit clearer in years to come.
Yeah hopefully it will be a lot clearer I hear what I think I hear in reverse a lot of it doesn’t make sense to me either. Things don’t seem to be at all what we think they should be logically speaking. If things were following a logical path would we even find ourselves in this sort of reality? Nope. Looks like everything is pretty free until it decides to go after itself or someone else to the point of insanity. Then mommmy and daddy have to come in and fix things but not in the way we would want them too.
Oh this just came into mind another David Icke idea. He claimed that oneness was hacking the matrix. So this could be your idea of the one waking people up. Aren’t we being awakened by the one even though we are still in bodies? Something brought us to this fringe of the fringe and it wasn’t the average everyday.
I tell you guys the truth, my awakening started right before my 36th birthday last June 6th (coincidence that this was right after the 1st batch of bad-evils left out…? I think maybe not) anyway, the way it happened for me is that I was in the “Christian” mindset, having been raised that way, but never really belonging to any ‘church’. Every time I would go to one (any denomonation I tried), it just never felt right and I would shy away from them and the people there. I finally just came to the point of praying, not just to “god” but to the God who created the universe, the angels and the humans. I just asked the He please lead me to be in the “right place at the right time”, since I was feeling inside that things were coming to an end, so to speak. And that if I was in any deception, please show me and help me get out of it - I wanted truth and I was willing, God forbid, to accept that anything I thought I knew could be wrong, Jesus, Christians, the Bible, all of it. I did not end the prayer “in Jesus’s name” like I had usually done, but just with a ’so be it’. He, our Father, the Most High One is good and true to hear your heartfelt prayer and I have been on quite a ride ever since.
I believe it is the waking up process that you are talking about. I believe there will be more and more. Some will fight it at first. Some will be lulled back to sleep. But those who have a heart for truth and love the Most High God, the One from Whom all life flows, they will wake up in due time. I pray for that often and I also think that the “sleep” most are in could be many things, haarp, elf, self-obsession, addictions, religions, and so on. And while the Bible, I believe is not infallible like many Christians think, but there is truth there and the deception that is so good that it might fool the very elect is this matrix that Peggy and others have uncovered.
(Sorry so long…)
Very well said turtlegurl :)
Things to consider category:
Ever think about the story of David in Psalm 23:4 ‘yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil…’ Was this a statement about not fearing even in near death or at death or was it some how connected to the passing through an astral plane and the horrors Peggy uncovered?
Regarding the blogs discussion of ’spirit’ ‘the soul’ and ‘astral bodies’, I ponder the Matthew verse quoting Jesus: “Didn’t you understand what God said about resurrection of the dead? He said; I am God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob… not of the dead but of the living.” Later in Matthew, Spirit is described as from ‘heaven’ as inspiration for David; and, it appeared to only be ‘one’ and it was a title. But there is no mention of the soul or astral bodies when it came to a discussion of ‘the dead’. This seemed to freak the disciples out so much that they never asked another question in this area. So who or what watches out for the dead? Could the soul end up in the astral world at death; another world where they are left to figure things out?
If you study the work of Robert Monroe he says yes they are dropped in astral and left to figure it out. If they don’t ever figure it out well that’s where they stay. There’s a part in one of his books where he talks to a very religious being who showed herself as a woman he came upon her she assumed he was one of the demons. He helped her by connecting her with her daugher which was on a higher level. I’ve often heard the big shot astral travelers saying they saved a child or a person from the lower levels or limbo. They got them to a higher part. Monroe only saw people leave the astral bands/layers when they no longer considered themselves human or physical. He would just see sparks of light leave this reality. Monroe and some others created The Garden as they called it for people to go after death and be safe to get over earth life and move on to the next band or try to exit if they can from the loosh farm.
zerph-
Hmmm…things to ponder. What do you make of Matthew 17: 1-3 when Yahshua went to the mountain and transformed and Moses and Elijah came to talk to him? I am thinking astral bodies…and what he transformed into “…his face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as light” is what me have to look forward to and soon. Oh yeah and when Yahshua died (again in Matthew) 27:50-53 “Then Jesus(Yahshua) shouted out again, and he released his spirit. At that moment the veil in the sanctuary of the Temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook, rocks split apart, and tombs opened. The bodies of many godly men and women who had died were raised from the dead. They left the cemetery after Jesus’ resurrection, went into the holy city of Jerusalem, and appeared to many people.” Astral bodies here again, I think. I never could wrap my head around physical bodies (I mean really can you say bones and decay and what not) like some people believe. My personal thinking is that the translation might be wonky or deliberately misleading and that the veil tearing might have something to do with the net/grid/veil and while it was torn or smashed they could see into that dimension…
Turtlegurl,
The most interesting part of Matthew is that much of the work is ‘parables’. Your refering to ‘bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised’. This seems to match Peggy’s details from Francis on people that were in the astral plane who had been killed there going to sleep. As for the thing with Moses and Eli’jah high in the mountain, I can only say, Eli’jah’s trip into the whirlwind and later ‘in a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; Eli’jah went up by a whirlwind into heaven’; well, they sounded to me like UFO events. Can’t say if this was a ‘good’ Pleadian or ‘bad’ reptiles. The Books of Enoch (Noah’s grandfather) filled in the missing details for me.
I thought I had heard that when people were killed in the astral, that they would go to sleep until some time when they would all awaken. I know now that I was mistaken about that.
I have heard a number of times since there has been so much murder and cloning that those who are killed in the Astral are awake and with the One to be healed. They are outside of the net. Many will be in the spirit army to help us get out of this mess.
I heard myself say in reverse during one of the major kidnapping sessions at a public place where I ran my recorder, “Go to the One, you’ll be good as soldiers.”
I’m going to post that reversal since I think it is important.
Why don’t you two, Zerph and Turtlegurl do some reversing about these Biblical subjects?
Most astral travel people if they are honest will admit that the astral is a very dangerous place. The big shots go in there with protection mantras when they get attacked. It may be hard for us here to get exact information but it’s not a great place that’s for sure from all my research and personal experience. I’m going to ask to return to the one/source, not go into the light because that loops you back in and oh fight if I must like a wild animal. I’ve had enough of this slavery.
Peggy,
Will do as you suggest and report back - uhhh, well if I can get my RS listening skills to hear good enough. I’m at the stage of hearing mostly blah blah blippity blah and only picking out a few things here and there. But this might be a way to hone my skills, so to speak.
sb,
I always thought that “go to the light” they always say might not be such a good idea. I’m with you, head to the net and finds me a hole!
I just remember some insider people saying: Don’t go into the light. And with all the go to the light NDE (near death experience) stuff you better believe it’s looping you back in. Think of it as a big cosmic worm on the hook that a fish can’t pass up. We think light = god and we want to be with the source/one so we go for it though it is the false light set up by the loosh/soul/flesh farmers. I had an NDE when I was in my early 20’s I had gotten very sick and I was dying. All of a sudden I see behind my closed eyes this flashing light that acted like it was trying to draw me into it. I just yelled: NO! And it finally stopped bugging me and I didn’t die.
Wow SB, something to ponder and it does seem to fit. I have always felt that the whole reincarnation thing was not of the One True God, but somehow, it never stopped me from thinking there was something to it, ya know. Actually, just thinking about that is giving me a whole differnt spin on the story of Yahshua (Jesus) and what it all might be also be about…. Imagine that this renegade group of bad-evil beings, regardless of where they came from (aliens, fallen angels -doesn’t matter) but they came to earth, locked it down, locked us down (using only something like 10% of our brains…) threw a net over the earth, moon, mars. Having a convenient farming operation . Thinking that their net (and light) kept not only us in, but the One and His forces (angels, pleiadians - whosoever) but ahhhh, how does this “son of mankind”, this teacher truth and leader by example make it through…hmmm. I have heard it described that in the 3 days (Fri pm - Sat/Sabbath - Sun am) that He went to Hell or Hades or Sheol or wherever the main place(s) of the enemy troops hang out and gave the warning that their time was soon up, they were going down (my own wording, here)….just an thought…
Turtlegurl,
It takes a while to get through the blabity bla of RS. I must admit, that I have a hard time with audacity too. BUt maybe if you start with it, you can get it to work for you, but I just found it much harder to use than Sound Forge.
Unfortunately, Sony upped the price of Sound Forge from $60 to hundreds of dollars.
Turtlegurl,
I’ve heard some people in reverse talking about their NDEs and none of the ones I listened to had the beautiful experience that they thought they had. The reps know how to manipulate our connection to the Creator and what we will remember and what we will forget.
But I’m realizing that if I just try to blow away everyone’s experiences and beliefs, that it will only cause people to not listen to RS or what I and others have heard is going on. So I don’t think it matters if you want to use a special name for God, or if you loved your NDE, or whether you go to church and find comfort there.
The most important thing is that one open up enough to really listen to this information and hopefully try RS for oneself.
So I would rather downplay that and talk up the reptilians, the net, planet X and in the end, everyone will know exactly what is real and what has been manipulated
I just said that it doesn’t matter if one has certain religious or spiritual beliefs until one goes public and then starts giving out very bad information which will ultimately hurt people.
I think the world of Sherry Shriner because she is such a fighter and truly believes what she is saying, but I’ve heard her say that PX is filled with reptilians coming to create more horror here. I’ve also heard her say that the “Most High God” is also going to smite the humans (I assume those who don’t have a certain belief system) when he returns. That is false and also destructive. It just adding more disinformation and certainly a lot more fear to an already terrible situation.
She is listening to a reptilian who is pretending to be the Most High God, Yahweh. She said so in reverse over and over. She was brought down a long time ago and is a Pleiadian. She came here to help fight the battle and was captured.
She said in reverse that the “priests put a cell phone in her head” (chipped) so now she heard an entity who has convinced her that he is Yahweh.
When she said in forward: A big Yah blessing. In reverse she said, He’ll screw it up my ass. Doesn’t sound like the Most High God to me.
BTW I reversed her at her request and sent her a disc of her reversals, but Yah won out.
Turtlegurl,
Here is your summary and a good one it is:.
Imagine that this renegade group of bad-evil beings, regardless of where they came from (aliens, fallen angels -doesn’t matter) but they came to earth, locked it down, locked us down (using only something like 10% of our brains…) threw a net over the earth, moon, mars. Having a convenient farming operation . Thinking that their net (and light) kept not only us in, but the One and His forces “out”.
The net is tighter now than ever. The Pleiadians may forays into the net almost 5 years ago for months and took people out of the astral world at great personal risk. They told me they were saving lives which I didn’t understand at all at that time. I didn’t know anything about the meat-eating habits of reptilians.
On New Years eve 4 1/2 years ago, their transport ship was captured and so were some of the humans and at least one Pleiadian captain that came to try to rescue them. I had heard that the rescue attempt resulted in this capture. I was sick to my stomach. The Pleiadians got through and told me that the Alliance was still in tact, but it was a great loss. (Of course that Pleiadian is still alive in spirit, but I’m sure he was tortured horribly and I can’t bare to think about that.)
The Pleiadians risk everything to help us. I know what these reptilians are capable of doing to captured Pleiadians. If the Pleiadians (and other allies like Sirians) are reincarnated here and have children, the reps will take great pleasure in brutalizing the children in front of their parents just to create the worst suffering possible.
I spoke to some of the spirit people whom the Pleiadians were getting out of that hell world. One man was leaving and he was ecstatic. One the way out in the ship, he thanked Jesus. I thought he should be thanking the Pleiadians since I never heard Jesus helping any of those people in the astral including Christians.
Sorry if this offends anyone. But let’s give credit where credit is due.
Peggy,
Oh my goodness, you have learned so much over the last 5 years. You truly are a blessing to any and all who seek the truth. Things really are not what they seem, not even close.
Turtlegurl,
Really and truly things are not at all what they seem. I thought I had a pretty good idea of the truth in my years of spiritual seeking and meditation, etc, but I had no idea what was really going on.
I also had no idea 5+ years ago the doors that would open when I went and bought that first cheap digital recorder at Walmart. Its been a real roller coaster ride.
Learning the truth hasn’t been easy, but it has made me much stronger.
If we look at the god of the bible who was given many names we see an entity that demanded ritual sacrifices, war and no one to every look at it when it came down to speak to them. I mean come on your feeding off this and you don’t want your creations to see you because they’d be talking to big lizards not some spirit. Also the god of the bible killed far more people than his rejected servant Lucifer. His son has to to be sacrified as well to save people. Very messed up stuff but we don’t question any of this as kids because if we do we are punished. It’s mind control.
Also in both the Catholic and Protestant churches you are taught to take some kind of communion where you mimic eating the body (bread or wafer) and blood (wine/grapejuice) of Christ. Well, let’s look at this ritual is this not teaching people cannibalism? Oh it’s symbolic it’s not real but hey the thought is real. And the thought is eat a more powerful being than you to gain their strength and knowledge. Religion in all its forms just isn’t from the source it’s the mind control of the loosh farm and we’ve all done it or have done it. Without it we feel naked and confused. Not trying to go off subject or be rude but I believe this is the first layer of the conditioning of this place: Religion. And very few escape it and still think there must be a higher power but it’s not here.
sb - you keep on talkin’ girl, you got it! We’re born into it and have to accept it, no questions asked. It is the way it is…. NOT! As an ex-Catholic I was there - communion, confession, priests, nuns (altho there were some good people along the way, underneath the costumes, like my choir leader Sister Mary somebody or other)and tried to feel the love. Well, you can feel the love, only it’s for the True Creator, not Jesus or Jehovah, or Allah, or Buddha, or any number of carefully planted gods….Thanks for your nicely expressed posts.
Back to my bumper sticker: “Question Reality”
SB,
Yes, most of the Christian sects practice a form of ritualized cannibalism and people don’t question it because it is done with great reverence and respect, but think about it, eating the flesh and drinking the blood.
That is what the reptilians do in all of their ceremonies of ritual sacrifice.
Peggy,
Maybe it’s my imagination, but some of my previous posts are missing.If I have offended any forum members or you, please accept my apology. It was not my intention. But several comments I have made in the past three days are gone. I understand completely if they were too strong in content, and you had to remove them. I’m searching for the truth these days, as I’ve had enough “church” to last me for the rest of my life. I enjoy reading everyone’s posts and their opinions. I just wanted to let you know about this,as a friend of mine can’t find several posts that I wrote recently.
Thanks, Peggy, you are one in a million, and I consider you a dear friend in truth and in spirit.
I don’t think they got deleted FF I had problems posting myself the last couple of days I even had a time when the server to the website kept telling me error. When I could get on I would post something but it wouldn’t take it. Everything seems to be worked out right now these things do happen.
sb,
These are posts a few days old, and your answers to me, and some from Peggy. Some of these posts are gone. They were here this morning, now they are gone. Some other replies as well. I just thought maybe Peggy was combining the threads or deleting some of the posts. I know it looks like I’m being paranoid, but a lot of stuff we were discussing isn’t here now. I don’t have screen shots, so I can’t remember everything we were talking about, but some, like the Iraq war, and portals, they aren’t here. At least not where I can see them. One of my buddies who reads this forum, made the comment to me. She asked “hey, where have some of the threads gone”? It’s not that important to me, but I just wondered why, and who, had removed them.
Well, if Peggy isn’t deleting them someone else on a higher level could be doing it. She usually lets you post whatever unlike other blogs/boards. I’ve never seen you post anything offensive so there wouldn’t be a reason for her to delete. Obviously messing with the blog would be a way to irk people in hopes of shutting it down. That may sound even more paranoid but these guys will try anything to stop people talking to each other.
sb, freedom - until Peggy responds we won’t know, but every once in a while I know Peggy has to make room due to bandwidth - but she usually takes down a whole ‘topic’ to do that. That has happened once already that I know of , a few weeks ago. She did that on her site the first time around, last year. She didn’t delete any responses, but did delete topics from time to time because she had to.
Oh, ok, I just wondered where they went. Good explantion, Roxanne, about the missing topics. I hadn’t thought of that. I’m a sensitive soul, and always think I have said or done something to offend. It’s just a matter of bandwidth, I’m sure that’s it. Thanks again, Roxanne, and thank you sb, for your explanation as well.
Freedom Fighter,
I haven’t removed any post anywhere on this site. No comment is too strong if it is questioning and wanting to find out the truth. I’ll check to see if somehow they got put into a wait and see place which can happen but that isn’t me or anyone else on this site.
Please repost if they don’t show up because I think discussions are very healthy.
Freedom Fighter,
I consider you and virtually everyone writing here to be a good friend and front line warrior in these times.
SB,
A few days ago, I had a lot of trouble with posting and Roxanne emailed me and said the site was down for a short time. So that must be the culprit.
If I’m going to take down a topic, I’ll let everyone know. Sometimes it seems like there are so many and some are old news. But my webmaster said I have enough bandwidth not to worry about it so far.
(I guess it’s because there are all of these silly commercials here on the site that are supporting the bandwidth (Laughing).
I didn’t do it honest!
BUt I will check to see if those posts are somewhere in some folder waiting for approval.
I told the webmaster to put up everything and he said ok. But I will check.
Discussions about Iraq, Iran, portals are not that controversial considering that we are calling out the meat eating reptile scum bags and their lackeys and exposing their vile activities.
When the site was ‘down’ a few days ago it surely caught my attention and I emailed Peggy right away. I’m not saying that was the case the other day, or with this current ‘case of the missing posts’ that Freedom Fighter has brought to our attention, but blocking the site, suspending posts, etc. - it’s a great way for ‘them’ to mess with us. So if there is no technical reason that can be figured out, as long as we keep that in the back of our minds, and as we bring any of these noticings to Peggy’s and other posters here’s attention, we should be ok. Great that you posted about it Freedom!
Good, then all my friends here won’t think this latest post by me is an indication of mental health problems. Two comments. April 7th and April 11th,2006, I had 2 massive nose bleeds.My doctor could find find nothing wrong,but did say I should start lose dosage aspirin each day [ 81 miilgrams ]. Just pointing out the time frame here. Right before May or June 2006. I knew nothing about EVP, or Peggy. Last night another dream, same one, but no nose bleeds this time. The dream…. A large red planet is drifting toward us, ever so slowly. It is partially cloaked in what appears to be a covering of something dark. Not sinister dark, but more like a covering to conceal the red glow. Whew!! From what I can remember the cloaking material looks likes a velvet cloth. It’s all so strange to me. I also put my bible away. I won’t find the truth there. I’m sorry if that offends anyone, but we are much more than the bible says we are. I have been thinking about buying a recorder, any suggestions about what brand to buy? It’s time I reversed myself.
FF, I’ve had the red planet dream as well! I had it last month actually I didn’t mention it though because I thought well just a dream. I’ve been on another forum where someone had the red planet dream as well and they drew it with wings. The bible does have some info in it but it’s sort of encrypted in a way you have to be an elite to understand it. Jordan Maxwell does great work on just breaking it down for you using all he has researched. The elites bow down to that bible so there’s something in it for them. We get taught one way they get taught another way.
sb,
I have read a lot of Jordan Maxwell’s books, and his web site. He has reasonable explanations about certain scriptures that I agree with. Just for now, I decided to lay my bible aside while I contemplate what and how I feel everything. I have begun to question many areas of my life and my Christian walk. I haven’t turned away from my heavenly father, I just needed a break. I left church 2 years ago. I still have my faith, just not any faith in organized religion. So, you have dreamed of the red planet as well. I did not think I was the only one. That velvet cloak looks like a tulip flower. The planet is encased inside this tulip looking cloth.As if the cloak/cloth is holding the planet up. It appears to be divided in sections just like the tulip. I can see it so clearly even when I’m awake.
Freedom Fighter,
Wow, great dream. PX is dark (not negative) from what I have heard and doesn’t reflect the sun’s light, at least so far. I’ve heard that it is sneaking in. Of course, the reps know it is incoming but because of the net and the lack of light, the reps have been able to keep it quiet. I guess they are trying to get their plans lined up for what will happen once the people of Earth finally see it.
Freedom Fighter,
You don’t need any kind of fancy recorder, even a old tape recorder will work fine as long as it can be attached to your computer with a cable.
With my laptop, I don’t even need any recorder, I just hit record in the software and it will record any sounds in the room.
As for the bible, all truth is right inside of you. It’s just been blocked from your conscious mind by the shut down. RS is a crack in the door and once you really start to hear your own voice speaking back to you, would will know that all truth is within.
I’m glad your going to try RS.
Freedom Fighter,
I’m sure the nosebleeds were because of some manipulation. I doubt anyone reading this site hasn’t been messed with.
But knowing what is happening will offset any manipulations that they try.
Freedom Fighter,
It takes a lot of courage to question our beliefs. It can make one feel nervous and even frightened as if we are being bad and disrespectful.
Not questioning constantly was when I fell down the rabbit hole. I question everything now and ask myself and always get the truth. The Creator understands the mess we have here and no one gets in trouble for questioning!
I think the dreams about PX being red is sort of used as a signal to us if it was invisible to us in the dream we wouldn’t be able to understand the message.
Freedom - I have had two dreams in the past 10 months where I’ve removed objects from my left nostril. In the dream I did not necessarily id them as implants, but I’m sure they were.
Thanks everyone for the input. I never put much faith in dreams, and most of the time when I do dream, it’s a good dream. I work outside, and I’m close to nature and my bees. I dream of flowers and the earth, so when I had the nose bleeds and the dream about the red planet, I knew something was up. I’m not afraid to dream or to think about what I have dreamed. I am close in thought and heart to the One. He sends the planet X quietly through the universe, even the reps won’t know when it enters earth’s gravity. Only the One will know, and He will tell us in the appointed time. It’s all about trust and listening for the voice of Our Creator. I wish all of you here, peace, and joy, and most of all, I wish you love.
Freedom Fighter - your words are like sweet balm to me. thank you.
Catching up here: Re: the astral world:
In the Orthodox Christian Church, we had what was called the “Toll Houses” at death where the demons extracted payment from you for your evil deeds. Horrible stories told of these places. So of course you want to do the whole church thing to gain spiritual gold to pay your way thru~~hopefully with a Saint by your side!
Olga Kharitidi was a Russian psychiatrist who took a trip to meet a shaman in Siberia who took her on a shamanic trip to what I would now describe as the astral world. When she went back to her hospital practice, she worked to free her patients from their mental aberrations using the story as her method so that they wouldn’t have to experience it.
Both sound like the astral realm to me where the Reps reign and do their torture.
I just now remembered to put this together. It has been a while since I have thought about those practices.
Communion in Orthodoxy and I think Catholicism is actually partaking of the body and blood of Jesus, so that we may become a part of Him. Ahem…WHO?
I don’t mean to offend with this; it is my RS a few weeks ago:
F:Jesus is made up by the controllers.
RS: by them gettin’ out the loosh.
Freedom~that is a great dream and very sweet words! ;>
Oh~ Olga’s shamanic trip showed tortured people in really horrible situations being eaten by creatures…like the toll houses…
Religion = Loosh
I hear this in reverse as well. And just read Robert Monroe’s work it says the same thing. You can have god/source/creator/one without religion actually its the thing that gets in the way. A false reality construct needs a lot of rules and punishments to keep it going.
That’s why they did it. Yup. Perfect. People THINK they’re getting connected to “God” but because religion stands in-between, they just get the reptilian version of “God”, which is THEM! Besides all the great manipulation which gets the religious to serve the repts needs - food, fear, self-doubt, we’re better than you (divide and conquer), war, sales representatives for more religious participants (thus more rep food etc) etc etc etc.
Let’s be done with that, and all reptilian influence control manipulation and presence forever! They’re getting busted big time soon!
I keep hearing that we will see the net, the reptilians, the meat and of course, the big con job here. It will be a very big shock.
I did hear that the One will be speaking into each heart as things start to come undone, but I still think it will be a very big shock.
Oh Peggy that is such wonderful news to hear that there will be a personal message for each from The one…even as it may be shocking, there will be much comfort as well…
Oh boy. I guess I haven’t thought much about that reality check. It will be hard enough for me and those who know about it - cannot imagine what it will be like for others. I still think the net coming down has got to have a positive element as far as maybe mitigating the blow. Well, The One speaking into each heart, yes, that could be just what is needed. Actually, what comfort and healing it will bring. Could be that wafts of love will be coming with the net down too. So the nasty ‘view’ will have another element(s) to assist?
Remember that peope have to go through their priest or Christ to get to God? God can’t even look upon them because of their sin. So they already have these guys set up to do it for them. My mom says this to me all the time: God can’t even look at you when he sees you he sees you through Christ if you have accepted him as your personal savior. I helped her solve a problem in her life recently and she did not thank me she thanked Jesus. LOL
If you think about it, thanking Jesus or whoever is like directly thanking the Reptilians. (try that as a visual, just take off the mask) YIKES!
Problem is some people are so power hungry themselves they wouldn’t really care who they are thanking as long as they get what they want. Look at our leaders! :(
As George Carlin says~ God is All Powerful, All Knowing, All Seeing; but He seems to have this problem with MONEY. Just can’t handle His Money too well! ;>
I love Carlin ;) Also is great when he says he loves you but he’s still going to throw you into hell if you do of the things on his no no list.
10 commandments reduced to 3!
I’ve got 4:
~Love the One(can’t command that though…that is a relationship!)
~Love your neighbor as yourself(means you love your self first after the One, and all that goes with it; covers most of the 10 commandments! And if you love the One, well then you will love yourself!)
~the Kingdom of Heaven is within(more a discovery than a commandment that comes from the loving the One).
~ these things and greater will you do(see above).
So I guess there is really just one:
Love the One and all else will follow!
Yes, always a middleman getting between us and the Creator.
Think about this, if you had a bunch of children and many of them were misbehaving, but the oldest was a good boy. So now you insist that the good boy has to suffer torture and pain and die an excrutiating death so that the rest of the bad kids would now be saved and in your good graces again.
That parent would be quickly sent to the psyche ward or worse. But that is the role that the Creator has been put into.
And people don’t even question, just like eating flesh and blood in the rituals.
Miriam,
Since the One is all of us, then Love the One and by doing so, we love everyone.
I’m still not sure why people are waiting for messiahs to come back. Is it so that the messiahs can rescue the saved and smite the rest? So much saving and smiting.
Conditioning is all it is people have been told from childhood that only Jesus or whatever the have as a copy in their culture can get them to God. My mom and I have had this discussion over and over again. I tell her that she only believes this because that’s what she’s been taught. She simply pauses and goes back to her programming. I’ve gotten to the point after she calls me satanic LOL That I just say I hope someday you have enough courage to look beyond religion and see what exists that there is no seperation really between you and the source/god/one. I don’t wish her to burn in hell like she does me. ;)
I really hope they don’t bring in the false messiah clone that people say they might do to bring about the NWO. Than we really won’t be able to reach people! And we will probably be burned at the stake!
Speaking of ‘messiah’. JFK’s speech about going to moon had several reversals about ‘his coming back’. He even named the place and circumstances. He said it would be ‘Iran when they see the dark spot’ which is likely something like a nuke or even day turning to night. He also said Iran would be the place because there would be a man running around claiming to be the new god. He also explained he (Kennedy) would come back and have a sandwich and mug of coffee when this all went down…. So perhaps Kennedy will make a re-appearance?
zerph - intriguing about JFK. dark spot could be eclipse?
sb - good for you to have that conversatoion with your mom - i didn’t ever go there with mine. She was catholic lock stock and barrel. they don’t have to think that way. all the rules sets it up for them. ” Here, YOU talk to god and run things, I can’t handle that!”
Zerph~ that is a pretty profound reversal!
Miriam and Roxanne,
I did this reversals years ago and recently I did it over again with the same exact results at each RS find, so I guess it was more profound years ago because I didn’t know what any of it meant. When things start ‘lining up’ with real time, weeeeeeee! I’m a logical, analytical person so this RS work is far out for me to experience.
Dark spot could be the black hole just discovered, it could be the black hole that ‘might’ be created in Cern with the super collider experiment, an eclipse of earth or of the moon.
I can tell you this, if that hologram thing becomes a ’second comming’ event and we hear on the news JFK is walking and talking, well this will be my second big find. My first was that I discovered the purchase of land in Patagonia by the Bushes as their future home. I found this about three years back and told only Peggy and one talk show host so I would have a track record. I have a few of those things in on the back roads records just as a sanity thing.
Zerph, that was a great reversal of Kennedy. I’m not at all surprised about the Iran thing. That is the area of the world where geological evidence has been found of ancient nuclear/atomic explosions… So it wouldn’t be the first time it has been the center of activity, so to speak. It’s been a hotbed of activity for a couple thousand years!
There are supposed to be major vortexes in the middle east that ETs and people fight over. It’s a power spot I think. That’s why it’s never left alone.
Yes, the Middle East is the big reptilian portal (or portals) and that is why is is always a war zone.
That is where the “gods” came in originally and where they make their plans to leave.
Zerph, yes, the JFK find is intriquing. (I wish I could spell better sigh.)
see if you have a spell check option in your e-mail, Peggy. It will cover all typing. I depend on it.
My mistake: if you use “Foxfire”, go to the top bar. It will have a tab called “TOOLS”. On the bottom is a tab called “OPTIONS”. In there is a selection called “BROWSING”. Click on “check my spelling as I type”.
I think this is available in any format. Check tabs like options, tools, help…
just always keep a word document open then type the word that you want, then highlight that word then double-clip on the little picture at the bottom of the screen (looks like an open book with a red X) this will give you a short list of possible corrections
Hope that helped
calendars seem to be off 4 years …jesus was really born on -4 not 0 so that would make 2012 2008. anyone see this in reverse?
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/1353/The_last_secret_of_Washington_D_C_2007___2012/
I have seen this info before and it is compelling; nice video. Michael Tsarion talks a lot about all the symbols that are put in front of us without our truly understanding the meaning. I have not RS-ed this info, but a good project!
Clone, I’ve run into James Gilliand’s work he’s got videos on google video and youtube I believe. Anyway he has evidence that 2007 is actually 2012. I’ve tried getting years and times on RS but for me so far it isn’t any good for that type of information.
Thought you all might find this interesting. It’s from one of the Native American (Cherokee) prophecies. Their calendar ALSO ends 2012:
In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku’s choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains.
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In the year 2004 and 2012 the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation will take on a different configuration. The Snake itself will remain, however, upon the Rattlesnake shall be added upon its head feathers, its eyes will open and glow, wings spring forth as a winged Rattlesnake, it shall have hands and arms and in its hands shall be found a bowl. The bowl will hold blood. Upon its tail of 7 rattles shall be the glowing and movement of Pleiades.
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The Rattlesnake shall become a FEATHERED RATTLESNAKE or FEATHERED SERPENT of TIME UNTIME.
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And upon the Rattlesnake is also the Milky Way. A crossing of the Milky Way shall be seen at these times.
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For the center of the Universe is what many know as the Constellation Sagittarius by modern man. But upon this constellation of is also found the Pleiades Star system which is what is different in the boundary of others and the Cherokee Zodiac.
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The Milky Way is ALSO a Tree … STONE TREE. And upon Stone Tree is as a Tree with a tree trunk, branches, a top, and even roots. The Flower and the Tree is also a tassel as corn. And upon the flower and the tree is the TREE OF LIFE. REBIRTH, RENEWAL, NEW.
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And the Cherokee Calendar shall end in the year 2012. But upon the times just prior shall be the Feathered Serpent and its prophecy.
Upon the Heavens design, within the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation, it is written. And upon the Rings of TIME UNTIME of the Cherokee Calendar it also says BEHOLD RATTLESNAKE CONSTELATION. And Remember.
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The Rings of the Cherokee Calendar are read by the winding motion of the Rattlesnake. To Add or to subtract TIME UNTIME. To MOVE the Wheels backward or forward, to add a wheel to move the rings, to tell the tale what was, what is, and to be. The Rattlesnake and it design tells the movement of the RINGS OF TIME.
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And in the sky heavens the motions of the movement of stars, planets, and life tell the tale of its bearing. For all is as the winding of the Rattlesnake. And in the year 2004 the Morning Star shall be first and in the year 2012 the Evening Star shall be first. And upon those years the crown of the Feathered Serpent shall bear its colors and honor. The hands shall hold the bowl and the tail shall be as the roots of a Tree, The Pleaides Tree of the beginning.
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And in the Year 2004 and 2012 shall be the TIME UNTIME of the Feathered Serpent of the Sky Heavens. And the Rings shall turn upon those years of prophecy foretold on the Rings of TIME UNTIME. And Ywahoo Falls Kentucky shall sing of Venus and the Feathered Rattlesnake.
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For this is not all the prophecy not all the things thereof. For if it was meant for one to know and I give only part, then you have received a great gift. For if I tell all and it was not meant for one to know then I have waisted my breath. For this is a sacred thing, the Venus Alignment and the Feathered Serpent of the Heavens.
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And in the Year 2012 the Cherokee Calendar Ends. And all is reborn. For the Feathered Rattlsnake comes and shall be seen in the heavens in the year 2004 to 2012.
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In the south of the americas … it is related as the coming of Quetzalcoatl. The Ancient Cherokee relate it as the coming of the Pale One once again.
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The Rattlesnake Constelation shall appear with the Venus Alignment. The Stars of the Heavens of the Cherokee Zodiac, the Rings of the Calendar, and The Venus Alignment tell the story of a Chickamaugan Prophecy. For they all are aligned in the year 2004 to 2012.
Hello.
Just a thought: …He said it would be ‘Iran when they see the dark spot’ Could it be a “timeframe”- something with Iran (as with Iraq) when PX (its said to be dark) is SEEN / ARRIVE??
..and so maybe he will be back with it … (?)
Anyone noticed the Heroes tv show logo? I don’t know why but everytime I see the thing it reminds me of PX. Even though I suppose that’s not at all what they intended.
http://scifilist.vendikarrstation.com/images/heroes_logo.jpg
http://garysaid.com/images/heroes_logo.jpg
Interesting, sb. as we well know, the truth is all around us.
That is interesting.
Sara - very interesting info about the cherokee. Connection to the feathered serpent (maya) too. What I remember about the Cherokee is they talk a lot about The Seven Sisters, aka The Pleiades. I believe their stories say come from there.
They have a myth about the Pleiades but they don’t attribute the “7 sisters” to it the way the greeks did…they attribute 7 naughty boys playing when they were supposed to be working with it!
Remember the talk we were all having about the “rent in space”? I had thought I remembered something in the Mayan prophecy about it being somewhere near Saggitarius and had asked where the Pleiades were… There is a correlation between Sag and the Pleiades in this myth as well.
I saw that Sara (Sag and Pleiades connection)- very cool. What I remember about the mayan calendar stuff (I used to be really into it) was that there is another constellation, called Opheucus, which is near Sagittarius, and perhaps is in alignment with galactic center?
Ophiuchus, it is the “13th Constellation”, the Serpent Bearer, and is between Scorpio and Saggitarius. No one talks about it much but a lot of people ask about it! There are a LOT of articles, many of which I copied and pasted. Here is an excerpt:
“The sun travels through the *constellation* of Ophiuchus between approximately November 30th and December 17th each year, thus it falls between the *astronomical constellations* of Scorpio and Sagittarius.” (making Ophichus approximately 8 degrees Sag to 25 degrees Sag. The Galactic Core is at 26 sa, 56′41″. However, the Great Attractor is at 14 sa 2′47″. Hmmm. It could cover both!)
“Ophiuchus was better known in classical times as Asclepius, [in Latin, Aesculapius] the God of Medicine. He learnt the art from Chiron, the Centaur. On either side of Ophiuchus in the heavens lie the two parts of the sign of the serpent he holds, Serpens Caput, the Serpent’s Head and Serpens Cauda, the Serpent’s Tail. The twined serpent staff is the badge of the medical profession to this day. [However, the sign of the serpent itself does not form part of the Real Solar Zodiac, though it does from part of the Planetary Zodiac.] It is from the Serpent that Ophiuchus learnt the secret of the Elixir of Life.”
There is an older Babylonian version where Constellation’s symbol is a serpent representing Tiamat…however, as many reserchers have written, serpents in mythology are a metaphor for DNA. I’m really glad you brought up that up in connection to this prophecy! I would never have thought of it. That’s why I posted this myth…I wanted another person’s input. I REALLY want to know what is up with all of these prophecies! I think we are going to have to do some reversing in order to figure it out but I really wanted to hear what someone else’s ideas were. Thanks for getting back to me.
Interesting thing about Ophiuchus is that it is the ‘hidden’ constellation. Has not been made ‘public’ like the other 12. I wonder how that would affect the 30 degrees for each of the other 12 = 360 degrees. Serpent Bearer. Indeed. Serpents also represent transformation in some Native American tribes, and the kundalini. Again, it’s hard to say where the truth of these representations of Serpent ends and reptilian manipulation begins.
What is the Great Attractor?
The Great Attractor is an astronomical point is space that seems to be attracting just about everything. (Well, maybe not EVERYTHING.) Scientists don’t know what it is, they’re baffled by it.
Astrologically, here’s a quote:
“This is an INTERgalactic point — a point between many galaxies, and quite far away from our own — that is so powerful it can make even Britney Spears famous. It’s not a planet or star, but a mass of dark matter that is pulling a million galaxies toward it rapidly in a kind of anti-big-bang.
One distinct quality of the Great Attractor is that those with a strong placement of this point have impact far beyond what they ever imagined.”
I used to do a great deal of astrological study as well as mythology. However, I haven’t since I found RS… Now, I question it’s validity although I kind of miss it. I have a feeling that it, like all myths and religions, has truth mixed with untruth.
Have you ever RS-ed the validity of astrology, Sara?
I know what you mean about astrology. I still dabble out of habit, but with a knowing it could just be a card game!
MIriam,
No, I haven’t yet. But I’m going to now that you mention it. I have a whole list compiled of questions to ask.
I believe that by 2012, the planet will have passed and Earth will be nothing like it is today. I don’t know about the different Native American Prophecies since there is so much manipulation of everything here, but I know the Native people everywhere did not want to buy into the reptilian structures since they lived in harmony with the Earth, so they had to be nearly destroyed.
they say are calidars are off 4 years ..jesus was born -4 not 0 so 2012 would be 2008 .
still no ones sure if theres a nibiru …just like 2000 i did’nt even look i thought it was dumb .this got my attention alittle.
I’m sure there is a Nibiru or Planet X. I’ve heard it in reverse from so many I’ve lost count.
We can’t see it because of the net, that force field that blocks so much from our view. But I know it is incoming. When it is finally seen, it will cause a global panic, but it is the best thing that could every happen here.
Take it from me, it’s coming.
i’m very opened minded ..but don’t believe reverse could be angels talking to you. impossible to fathom words coming out of a mouth recorded could date timeframe to responding to what you want to know .so my voice saying a sentence then next person saying same sentence gets different sounds to a different anser like the angels going to reply by knowing all the soundwaves of your voice to a specific question .
and saying your clones is wow star trec beam me up and make me another body match …
and saying kids speak in reverse because aliens messed with us what about other langs …so reincarnation is in different toungs cause we come from mars or whatnot . imagination of whats mind no matter nevermind.
Reverse speech has never been said to be angels talking to you. I really don’t know where you even got that idea frankly. If you are open minded you’ll do reverse speech yourself and see if it can be a tool to use.
sb~ you are being surprisingly tolerant of clone!! constant surprise…! ;>
Clone~ if you are not interested in what is going on here…Scram. You don’t believe? We are not asking you to believe. If you do not want to try the method for yourself than you do not have much to offer.
It is one thing to ask us questions, another to just dismiss without any background. Have you even listened to Peggy’s Reversals to hear for yourself? Unlikely.
Get lost.
Oh My did I just tell someone to piss off…constant surprises… ;>
LOL so many agents so little time you know Miriam? They do like to destroy and divert. Than move onto the next forum to dismantle. So far we have been able to out step their passive aggressive attacks. Not everyone is a silly person who just doesn’t get it. Dear me I promised I would keep my mouth shut on that but who cares. Sorry guys just blame the reverse speech it tells all your dirty secrets. :D Get right with the creator and give the master the finger it’s real simple.
Right! ;D
your all nuts in the head lol you hear what you fathom in reverse ..anti virus for a cold vitamin c updates no firewall next your going to hear voices and say i have bin chosen .
Time to go back to you sit-coms clone.
Well leapin looshin lizards! You get king of the crazies clone no one is going to take that away from you don’t worry.
Guess i’m a agent or a lizard oops might be a clone.
Clone,
We know you are just screwing with us here. Maybe your life is boring, and we are really quite tolerant. But the idea that you might be a clone is not as crazy as you let on. In fact, everyone knows if they are or are not, but it is hidden in the RS part of the mind. You could access that information if you were serious about your quest for knowledge, or not if you just want to continue screwing around. It doesn’t really matter to us here one way or the other.
Our memories are very faulty. Traumas are often forgotten, abductions are often forgotten, we don’t remember our births and a lot of people remember past events very differently than others who were with them. If you think you can’t be messed with and made to forget you are incredibly naive.
BTW, angels are just demonic reptilians in pretty costumes.
Clone I would be so more impressed with you if you actually reversed instead of sitting on your ass and complaining. I’m hoping you are just a stupid kid cause if you’re not…oh dear.
Hi everybody,
I am new to the site and love every bit of it. Do not mind clone, ignore him and he will go away (he is getting loosh from your comments)
love,
Lisset
Hi Lisset, welcome!
Hello Lisset, welcome.
I could fathom reverse. But clones lol or reptilains brought down a bridge to feast . Or angles lie to me in reverse. your all turning a cool reverse inlightment into a fairy tail with your weird imaginations.
hello all … i’ve skipped all my homework for 4 days reading everything and listening to everything … i am so on board with y’all. I am really excited about RS because I can find the congruency and validations in my own work and really feel good about it. I am in film school and have an excellent audio program called Soundtrack Pro which I have yet to even use, so this will be a most excellent use of it. ( BTW, Rawgirl = eating vegan food unheated to preserve the life force, chi and nutrition …. every other mammal eats their food uncooked except man, and look at all the diseases man has created).
It is truly amazing that we have this tool …. I’ve known about it for years and years and with Peggy’s work and you wonderful, ENLIGHTENED, good-hearted people to hang with, I am even more inspired. I also make orgonite, know loohan, etc., so it is so fascinating to me how co-resonance brings us all together at right time, right place. A big hug and thank you to all of you who are leading the way as trailblazers in this very important work. It definitely peels back the layers on all the duplicity. It will be wonderful to share with y’all.
Here is a question for you: have any of you discovered that it is increasingly hard to be around other (asleep) people? I am somewhat reclusive, although I will go to events that seem high-vibrating (www.rawspiritfest.com in Sedona, for example). But I tried a live-music party last week and felt only 1 out of 100 people had light … the rest were lost in the astral somewhere, in pain, drinking, smoking, etc. It has taken me days to recover and makes me feel even more reclusive, yet I feel that so many are burdened from this reptilian manipulation, and lost and drifting.
I live in the San Diego fire area, and my entire town of 45,000 was evacuated. This was a staged event in my mind, practice for NWO evacuations, and the whole thing was very surreal. We had gun-toting troops patrolling the empty town, supposedly for looters, but I sensed a much darker agenda. Our house was protected, but 206 houses in my town burned down, 9,000 acres. The winds felt satanic, black magic. Loohan said he found a group of reptiles 300 feet down at