Angels, So Who Are They Really?

This scratchy audio, recorded years ago on my old Panasonic RRDR60 recorder, gave me my first big clue. The audio isn’t great, but I think you can hear the words. This is Rob McConnell from Xzone Radio Show.

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How many of you have ever seen an angel?

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tricky these things, we demons.

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I began to hear about the great angelic con job and decided that the angels were just demons in drag. All of the reptilians (aka demons, aka angels) thought that was hilarious. They were impressed that I had figured out one of the great deceptions here on Earth. Well, it wasn’t me that figured it out, but listening and wanting to hear the truth. Out went the angel paraphernalia which was all over the place including my set of 4 angel tiles which are pictured on the opening page of this website. I had angel pictures, artwork, CDs of angel music, videos of “Opening to Angels”, angel Christmas ornaments, even a subscription to an angel magazine…well you get the picture. The truth can be painful, but truth wins out over my lovely beliefs every time.

Here is some audio from a couple who teach about self-ascension and the archangelic realm. They are Wisdom Teacher Sri Ram Kaa and Angelic Oracle Kira Raa of the Temple of Self-Ascension. They are on with George Noory on Coast to Coast.

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That seized your net, he’s no gift

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A warden, that’s hell, we’ll fake it.

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All beef, must sell this girl

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He webs head, it’s our food.

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Hell, we’ll fake it at night, sure a snake

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Tied the gal, sold now, what a snake

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We attach it, sound (yup, the chip is in place)

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We need no intermediaries between us and our beloved Father. The more I got rid of the lies the more my love for the One, our true Divine Creator has grown. He is incoming to get rid of this demonic race. He will show His amazing self, which is everything, to each of us in the most loving way we can ever imagine.

He is the Source of all things and yet our most personal Father.

(Oh and now watch all of the angel commercials that pop up on this page LAUGHING.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

130 Responses to “Angels, So Who Are They Really?”

  1. The so called angels are here by busted! I wonder if other races (beside the repts) that do the same trick. I have a family member that have taken journeys with a huge blue angelic creature down into the fiery underground. I researched the mythes of the area and there might be other races then the repts afoot. Gonna reverse her talking about the experience in a couple of months. Wouldn’t be surprised if it is the damn reptiles though. Damn tired of them!

  2. What gets me is that they think this is amusing.

  3. Yeah! It’s HIGHLY untasteful! Makes me sick to my stomach!!

  4. It’s interesting because I always hated the angel concept people talk about nonstop on this planet. Everytime I would hear an angel story I would laugh and roll my eyes. I kind of felt bad that the idea of angels just made me angry. Especially when everybody else thinks they are so wonderful. Gets to the point though where everything is coming from the same source here no matter what it looks like and it’s all about food as most things are.

  5. It’s really easy to forget that they are totally imoral monsters as well. They see you as food but manipulate you not to see it. At these massive scales och murder and destruction on earth and the human race it is the worst monsters there possibly can be. The must go NOW!

  6. Don’t worry, the ad’s on the page are automatically targeted to dominant keywords.
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    I was hoping to hear the reversal on “All beef, must sell this girl?” That one seemed to be missing.
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    It’s so sad how deep the deception goes, you can hear the real joy in their voices and not knowing they’re being conned. I never understood why some people never gave the thought that “demons” are smart enough to appear as the most loving and beautiful of beings. There would be no trick if they appeared as dark and evil.

  7. Nicole
    The problem of telling a person that their wonderful outworldly amazing experience might have been manipulative orchestra by the hands of interdimensional superintelligent lizard creatures from outer and innerspace. It is overwhelming for most people but with research and reversing it is pretty clear. But yeah still it sounds like a crazy reality with all this propaganda and the manipulative lockdown of the Human race on earth. So so frustrating!

  8. Freedom Fighter on August 21st, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    I hope I can stop laughing long enough to type this is. Why am I laughing?

    I have on a tee shirt that says: “Never trust an Angel”. I’m not so dumb after all. hehehehehe

  9. JohnP it’s funny because people’s collective reality is just as insane to me as the whole alien manipulation thing. I mean pick your insanity cause reality is strange to begin with.

  10. Sorry JohanP said your name wrong bad me! :(

  11. Who do this reps think they are? I mean do they not know we have a Creator and Father who might not like what they are doing to us? Don’t they know He’s coming to whoop their behinds? Are they not afraid at all? They are the mean bullies on the playground that torment the little guys and cower off to the corner when Daddy arrives. I have always, always rooted for the underdogs & now I know why…the others have probably been reps.

    Peggy, are there any entities here, that you are aware of, that are helpers to mankind. Like the pleiadians and Sirians & are they all in human form, I guess?

  12. The reps are doing what anyone does if you can do something and get away with it for any length of time you do it. Look what we’ve done to animals and other human beings on this planet. Sure we may have been influenced by them to act this way but we still do it. What’s the old saying? Power corrupts absolute. If you are more advanced than another group of beings and could enslave them it’s a great temptation not to do it. But, in the end it’s your undoing. Free will comes into play for everyone but mostly for the reps their abuse of free will has effected everyone.

  13. SB
    No biggie! =) And I couldn’t agree with you more. This opera/disneyworld is pretty insane by it self. But I guess that a huge pinch of Sports, Religious Worship and Slave Labour in peoples lives distracts enough not to notice the insanity. I think the saying goes “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

  14. That’s the one ;)

  15. Sorry about missing that one reversal Nicole, I’ll get that on today. Yes, the manipulation is beyond belief and who do they think they are? Well, they are soon to find out just how all this feels when they are in a hell dimension and they suffer just the way this whole planet has suffered. They are going to be getting a big dose of their own medicine very soon.
    I wasn’t as smart as SB and Freedom Fighter. I fell for the angel hype, but then had to grow up and now I test everything and I mean everything.
    What is real for me, is loving each other, animals and nature. I have to add falling in love with the Creator as I hear about His rage, and his suffering as well as His desire to reach out to each of us. I also hear about His power and these reps are in very big trouble.

    Speaking of nature though, now I’m wondering about the kill and be killed in nature and if that is some kind of manipulation also. But the natural world seems still to be purer than the hi-tech world so to speak.

  16. Nicole,
    I just added that reversal, “all beef, must sell this girl”.

  17. Soon after I discovered the reptilian agenda, when I came across Peggy’s previous site, I became a vegetarian, full fledged. I do eat eggs though. Non fertilized ones. I just don’t want to participate in the ‘eat meat’ agenda. I feel like it’s just another ‘trickle down’ effect of what the mean guys do.

  18. I think the ‘eat or be eaten’ animal world is a part of the Agenda to make it ok for people to eat animals and kill each other. We have heard so much~ well it is natural, the animals do it!~but most do not kill each other…
    We used to have an active and functioning appendix which was used for processing grasses, but became useless a very long time ago as we became carnivores. Now a grass diet would kill us.
    I was forced to be a vegan due to an illness, and I am glad; and because I am the cook at home, I gradually switched the family over(what they do other places is up to them). We do eat an occasional chicken with gratitude( we are not totally evolved in our dietary needs!). And everyone else eats dairy and eggs which I do not have a problem with. It does change your consciousness towards animals. And anytime I smell a grilling steak and think it smells good, I remind myself it is burning flesh. GAG!
    But I don’t preach as I came to this perspective out of necessity and not conviction, and our bodies sometimes need a heavier protein like meat. Until we can switch over completely, there is a need, and I try to be grateful to the animals for helping me.
    Organic is best, but if you can’t afford it, you just do the best you can! ;>

  19. Angels were a bit harder for me to give up too, Peggy!

  20. Miriam - This is my own personal choice and I do not hold any judgement against others for their food choices. As you expertly illustrated, we are made to have to eat meat. (I eat dairy too, especially when it’s homemade goat cheese that Peggy makes! Yum yum yum!)

  21. Yeah goat cheese-delicious!
    I spoke with a friend yesterday who literally lives off of the land. He grows food, carries wood and water and yes, hunts for meat. He dispatched a goat for a friend of mine and since they used our buck, we were given some of the meat.
    He told me that he brought the goat to his place, put him in an enclosure and fed him for a few days until he was comfortable and not at all nervous. When he dispatched the goat, the animal was completely unaware and it happened very quickly and the animal just dropped. There was no pain or suffering.
    I’ve had to think about this a lot with having animals. In order to have milk, the goats must be bred. Young are born and half are males. Males are big, and very frankly, only a very few are needed. So I’ve already kept two as pets after neutering, but we just can’t afford to keep all of the males. We’ve tried to find homes, horse companions, pack goats etc. but eventually we’ve eaten a few after they were very well treated and then taken out with as little stress as possible. We thanked them for their sacrifice.
    I still have anxious thoughts about all of this.
    Of course, then anyone who has read the secret life of plants knows that vegetarians and vegans are not off the hook either.
    It’s a quandry.

  22. Miriam & Roxanne
    I’ve also turned my diet vegan/vegeterian but I have some other perspectives on it. I basically put up all the pros and cons in meny respects and finaly came up with five things that just made the choice clear. …and here they are.

    1. Meat is not cheap! (I’m a student)

    2. The vibration of the body and mind can reach new higher levels and highten sensitivity. (Awsome to meditate this vibe.)

    3. If most people on the planet didn’t consume meat (that cost more to produce then vegetables) there would be much more resources distribute to those people in need. Starvation and war are some of the biggest problems that we might face when the Repts finally leave. Yet I think it is probable that we will be greatly helpt during this phase in time. (I try to have a little longer perspective there I guess.)

    4. As everything in this world is energy in vibration through time as we experience it here in this dimension/density. (I took some Quantum Physics courses last year and it really changed my perspective on what reality and the world as we perceive it.) It is said that “you are what you eat” and that is basically the truth. You take the vibration of the things you build up your body with. If the animal that is about to be food have lived a life in panic, fear and unimaginable terror… Well then I wouldn’t like to take part of that …and absolutly not make it part of me. Should be a nobrainer but schooles avoid these “new” perspectives of science. Damn propaganda!

    5. I had a fifth reason according to some friends I’ve discussed the area with. But I forget.

  23. When you kill a being (plant or animal) you should return them to the source or so say the native people. By saying to them return to the source. I even return to the source when I kill big old spider. I’m a nut I guess beause I’m doing that and thanking the being that was my food. Maybe someday we won’t have this kind of reality where we even have to eat each other. But, for now respect is very important. Do as little harm as you can because there are other beings that have no mercy at all.

  24. I respect people’s choices to be a vegetarian or vegan. We actually eat very little meat, but we do eat some. It is always with respect and thanks for all of our food and yes, I do try to carry bugs outside and set them free. We use live traps to catch mice and transport them. We love and care for our animals.
    The eating is as I said, a quandry.

  25. Yes, how conscious are vegetables and grains; how do they feel about being cut off “at the knees”?
    Roxanne…I was not thinking of you when I said I do not preach, I was thinking of people who do, or have gotten knee-jerk defensive and have accused me of it when I say I am a vegan( I simply do not digest any animal protein well). No offense meant!
    I think sb, respect is the key. I try to save as many spiders as I can, when I clean the corners of my house…I think I must be nuts too! Especially when I worry about them in the cold weather,lol!
    Some creatures I really do not like and do away with, I like that-’return to Source’. We all do the best we can!
    JohanP~ I agree we take in the vibrations of what we eat.

  26. Plants are just as conscious perhaps in a different way but still intelligent I’m able to connect with them. There have been books and experiments on this. No words with them just an energy exchange. One of my best friends was a tree. When they cut them down I cried. But, they were sick so they had to. If you want to try to connect with them whatever kind of plant they are just clear your mind and touch them. If you are lucky they’ll give you some sweet tingley energy in response. They still have to be connected to the earth from my experience. Ever noticed how you feel so much happier around a lot of plants? More trees in an area lower crime rates. The singer Tori Amos has said more than once that when she wants to konw something she’ll go talk to a tree not a person. :) So you see no matter what you do you are eating a living thinking being. Just respect them for giving up their life so you can continue yours that’s all you can really do.

  27. Oh and my mother had a veggie garden in our backyard when I was a kid I would go talk to the veggies and felt so much better with them. They grew like crazy.

  28. Miriam - no offense taken! :-)
    When I see a dead animal on the road I make a circle with my finger over that spot and say “The One True Source Creator” - that, I guess, is my way of saying return to The Creator.
    I agree about plants being alive. Giving thanks always is the best way. (I have had a number of tree friends in my life - I LOVE trees!)

  29. Oh my plants and I talk all the time…they let me know what they need. I was thinking in terms of a field of wheat and other grains and vegetables on a large scale. I have written before about how I don’t think that there is one over soul for everything but that each living thing possibly has a soul. So we are possibly partaking of the energy of an individual when we eat even grains.
    I have RSed that crystals are not especially conscious of us, which doesn’t mean they do not have consciousness. I think the same is true of a large field of grains, conscious but not in the same way as we are or any of my individual plants are which I give individual attention too.
    An example of the amazing way vegetation communicates: In Africa there is a certain kind of tree that giraffes really love to eat. When they find a grove, they have to eat the leaves very quickly because the trees send out a communication that they are being eaten. The other trees then actually change their chemicals which adversely changes the taste and the giraffes go away. This has been studied and measured by scientist and found to be true!

  30. I heard an interview from a guy a while back who had wrote a book where he had hooked up a plant to a sort lie detector thing but it was modified. Anyway it was able to tell if the plant could respond to a word and what its reaction would be. Kind of like what they are doing now with water and words. Anyway the guy said I’m going to set you on fire. Well the plant went off the scale with panic on the machine. I’m afraid I’ve lost his name and the book! I’ll try to find it if anyone is interested.

  31. Freedom Fighter on August 23rd, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    I grow vegetables each spring and summer, tomatoes, peppers, onions, lettuce, and many salad greens. As I turn the soil over with a spade, I thank the earthworms who come to watch what I’m doing. I bless the soil, and the seeds as I plant. I pray afterwards, and thank the One for the harvest to come. My bees hover close by as I plant their zinnia’s and prune the English Thyme which is their favorite. I always ask everyone there, if they mind feeding and sustaining my family from their bounty. So far, no one has ever objected to feeding us. If I felt I was forcing them to give me honey or food, then I couldn’t eat it. I’m very close to the earth. I believe the flowers, and vegetables want us to partake of their goodness. It’s what makes us good.

  32. sb~ I remember that story well!
    FF: that is so sweet!

  33. SB, That book is the Secret Life of Plants and now I can’t remember the author.
    I do believe it is about respect for life, gentleness on the Earth, loving and being grateful for all that the Earth gives to us.
    We all do harm at times, drive cars, add to pollution, step on insects, kill life forms to eat, but nothing really dies, and concern for the feelings of all life forms minimizes any damage.

  34. Freedom Fighter,
    Gardening is so healing.

  35. Maybe the gratitude for partaking of who/whatever we consume is the key. Yes, we are stuck in this food chain paradigm with somebody else having tweaked the rules of engagement, but by giving thanks we can bypass the horror of those acts because we connect with the true life essence of the plant/animal and with The One’s energy? The repts just go at it with visciousness - don’t have a clue - but we can connect and heal or transcend the material aspect (material, meaning of the matrix agenda).

  36. You guys are so conscious on this level! Look into rawfoodism. It is the most pure and natural way of eating. I have tried it many times, but was only able to do it 100% for a month, however, on it you feel amazing. You change on so many levels, your awareness skyrockets. It is hard for me to maintain, but if you can do it, it truely is the most excellent way. And I do believe it is true that you are what you eat…living foods = life, dead foods = death. (not to mention scared, tortured, angry, sad meat products…who wants that?)

  37. The thing about the raw food diet is a lot of the people into it can only eat that way if they don’t have leaky gut. If you do you’ll never have enough stomach acid to break down raw veggies. So my mom has gone to steaming and juicing her veggies otherwise she is even more ill than she already is. My mom is an experiment victim from the 50’s where they would put straight radition on little kids instead of doing surgery on them. She has lost her thyroid to cancer and has a very low immune system. Plus leaky gut, liver issues, kidney issues and mental health issues. Doctors do not help people they hurt them in my opinion! Be as natural with your food and medicine as you can be that’s probably the only reason my mom is even still alive even though she’s in pain most of time. Most of the people are dead that got what was done to her done to them as well.

  38. I am really sorry to hear that, sb…

  39. Freedom Fighter on August 25th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    sb,

    Loving and healing thoughts go out to your mom, and loving and healing thoughts to you as well.

  40. This is the best page yet!!!! There is so much love here, love for the Earth. What a joy to be here with you all!

  41. You are probably doing everything you can for your mother, sb. Here is something I came across for pain: Angelica, an herbal tincure. 20 drops in some water a few times a day. Really helps when the weather has me achy.

  42. Turtlegurl,
    I may be able to stick to raw foods for two days and then pasta would win out.

  43. SB,
    I too send good and healing thoughts to your Mom.

  44. I’m sorry but don’t bother sending her anything. This woman has been abusive to me my entire life. I know she’s had a hard life but I still don’t excuse her. She only engages me in conversation so she can send me to hell in the name of her god. Good vibes sent at such a person aren’t going to effect them they would have to want to change and she doesn’t.

  45. Here’s a few things for health
    Goji Berries contain all 22 ammino acids (among many other vitamins)
    Shark Cartilage (good for so many things, it’s unbelievable)
    Silver (Colloidal) kills all germs (harsh viruses in early stages)- but if you can’t get a hold of colliodal silver sucking on a silver item (like a spoon) works just as well, this is why the high classes escaped the (black) plague, becuase they were eating off of silver plates and stuff (& this is where the saying “born with a silver spoon in your mouth” comes from)
    And wearing (jurassic) amber connects one to thier high self by strenghtening the solar-plexus
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    My beleif on the food chain is this, Humans were put here, not only to maintain the earth but to actually make it a better place (and so far we’ve done the complete opposite= a shame)
    The Sun is the father which fertilises Earth (the mother) which in turn gives us plant life (Food). Not really liking the fact that people slaughter animals to satisfy their own selfish ways (food)
    & Animals shouldn’t be pets (no that’s not a hit at you Peggy, becuase you live in Arizona and I know that your animlas have all the space and love that ALL animals deserve) Animlas shouldn’t be put behind locked doors or in cages (like a lot of city folk do)

  46. sb, know how you feel, my mom’s exactly the same, not ill, but really, really ignorant and vicious, how are we supposed to love when there’s people like this on our backs, hoping one day I can get away and make my own life (a facorty job and painting in my spare time) that’s the target.
    My commiserations go out to you sb, but…
    That’s life & What doesn’t kill you, only makes you stronger

  47. Johny and SB,
    Probably the reps who run reincarnation, knew about your strengths and so gave you really harsh mothers just to make life harder. Often it turns out to be just the opposite, as you said Johny What doesn’t kill me….
    The whole subject of meat eating and pet keeping is really difficult. I know from having to decide about what to do with all the baby goats, especially males and all of the animals in the pound who are killed if someone doesn’t take them. It’s a mess.

  48. In 2002 I think, I started getting fevers that would last 8 days a couple of times a year( I had had illnesses during my life that were leading down this road). My doctor told me my blood work indicated rheumatoid arthritis but that nothing could be done at that point. In January 2003, my daughter moved to Virginia to stay with her boyfriend and to go finish college. My father called to ask after her. We were having a pleasant conversation, and my guard was down. And then he said to me in a vicious way~ Well, let’s just hope she doesn’t make the same bad choices in her life as you made in yours. ~I felt a sword go thru my chest. Two weeks later I started getting very ill and I ended up with acute Lupus. The rest I have related~how after a year of AMA poison I found my way to a Naturopath and health thru diet, supplements, etc.(A big help was colloidal silver,Johny!)
    I was 47 when I finally had recovered enough of my health to be brave enough to remove my father from my life. I told him if he wanted to visit there had to be ground rules. He went ballistic and we ended up hanging up. That was the most terrifying thing I had ever done~terrifying! But I knew I had won! I wrote a 13 page letter telling him what an abusive life with him had been like, and letting him know that if he wanted to have a relationship with me he had to get therapy and find out why he treated me(and my mother, brother and sister) as he did. A year later(and without any therapy), he wrote to me saying he was sorry for all the things he did not know he did, and we should talk and have a new start(boy do I know what that is like!). I replied that I accepted his apology , but that I was uncomfortable with him not understanding what he did, and that a new start was not really possible if he didn’t, because the same pattern of abuse would begin again; I sent him a new copy of the letter. He wrote back that it must be all my fault because my siblings wouldn’t talk with me either!
    I had let go of my relationship with my brother, but would speak with him every now and then. I let him know about my letter(he had ended his relationship with my parents as well a few years earlier, but had renewed it to its previous abuse), and sent him a copy. He loved it and it helped him a lot, but unfortunately he wanted their approval more than his freedom. Later we had a blowout over me not hating Palestinians and about Israel~he is a Zionist I guess~so I am free of him…but I am most concerned for his well being…in my thoughts a lot. My sister is like Lucy from Charlie Brown where she says~ come on Charlie Brown, kick the football. I promise I won’t pull it way this time. ~But of course she does, and Charlie Brown lands on his ass with Lucy saying ~sucker! My sister would lure me into thinking she wanted to have a nice relationship and conversation with me only to find anything to mock me out about. I was in my 40s when I ended that, simply by not acknowledging her BD anymore. The greatest gift on my 50th was her not calling me…. My mother is old and doesn’t remember one conversation to the next, so she keeps wanting me to go back to college. Herbal school is a joke to her; only a liberal arts degree is worth anything. Really out of touch, really doesn’t know me, and can’t see me. I suffer thru short conversations with her once or twice a year, and have a bad day afterwards.
    Thanks for letting me share this. sb, I understand what it must be like for you…and Johny too…

  49. It will all change guys…with PX coming and freedom, it will change for the better…

  50. Miriam, it was like you were discribing my life, and I’m sure many others’, So glad you’re free now, I’m not out of the muck yet, but you’ve given me a some great tips THANX

  51. Freedom Fighter on August 28th, 2007 at 11:42 am

    Miriam, sb, Johny, big hugs from me to all of you. Our Creator knows your pain, and one day He will erase all the heartache and sorrow from your lives. In the meantime, we are a family here. You can all be yourselves on this blog, and be loved and accepted for the wonderful people you are. Good thoughts for all of you in my heart today. Blessings. F.F.

  52. Miriam - Good for you! Wow, thru all that I bet having your relatively good health and clear mind is all worth it. I have had to be ‘discerning’ and set limits with family members (and friends). It can be scary! But oh so worth it! Congratulations and thanks for posting that.

  53. I’ve really tried to love my mom and I still do help her a lot. But, it just got to the point where I can’t even attempt to have a loving relationship with her because she won’t allow it. So basically I am doing my duty as her daughter but that’s it. What’s even stranger is she had the same relationship with her mother! So we are just repeating this ourselves. My aunt is more of a mother to me than my own mother. She’s not a bitter person and she allows you to love her. Which believe me my aunt has had an even harder life than my mom but she is still an amazing person.

  54. sb,I am with you there sweet heart! I think you are amazing to continue to care for your mom, because I won’t do that for my dad if he needs it. Shady Farms for him! Hats off to you! Do what you need to do to stay sane and feel good about yourself! You are doing great!
    I used to adopt other people’s parents all the time, even for a time as an adult!I have history repeating in my family as well(and all my interactions with the world were recreations of my family life), that is why I was determined to break the cycle~ finally! My brother didn’t have kids with his wife to break both their families cycles! I messed up my own kids for a while, until I saw with shock what I was doing…being like my dad! I have had tearful times with my kids healing the wounds I created…I check in with them to ask~is there anything that you are holding onto that I did that we need to clear up?~ But it seems most is ok at this point. My oldest son and daughter got it the worst so it crops up periodically and can be searing to go thru yet again, but I do it so they can be healthier. Because our family gets along, the kids and even my husband had a hard time really believing that some of the stuff actually happened! But now that they have had to deal with nasty people, they have come to understand better. I made it clear that I am not going to funerals either! I don’t hate them, I just don’t want to be subjected to the crap. I told myself in RS that I was afraid of them; yet also to help them, but that they won’t listen! How’s that for conundrums!
    This is a wonderful group of people here! Thanks so much!!! ;>
    Johny~ I am happy to tell my story if it helps anyone! I get to release more of the energy behind it as well!
    FF~ thank you! I feel that when we are free from the net, there will be a chance to reconcile with all of our insane relatives and friends as they see the truth…I hope so!
    hugs and kisses to all!

  55. Yeah Rox it is great to be sane again! And I know everyone here has a similar difficult tale to whatever degree…Peggy finding her own self-worth beyond the confines of others; all have had quite the time of it…I don’t mean to ‘hog the blog’! ;>

  56. Ha, my brother and I both don’t have kids. My brother moved as far away from our mother as you could and still remain in the US. He’s told her that she’s in her own. My brother has been married 3 times and still no kids. He has two dogs though and he thinks of them as his kids. I guess having a mom that has so many issues makes you think twice about having kids since you didn’t enjoy your own childhood. Our Dad has a job that makes him travel the world so he is still hardly ever home. But, our mom likes it that way because when he’s gone she doesn’t have to pretend to be ‘normal’.

  57. You have love and friends here, sb…

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  59. :) Feels good to vent thanks for listening!

  60. Johny - Glad you found your way here! :-)

  61. sb - thanks for telling your story. also - interesting that your mom doesn’t feel like she has to pretend to be normal around YOU!

  62. Miriam - oh yes, girl, been down a pretty rough road meself! But am a very strong person now as a result. It’s tricky though, it seems some of my family members (most) have not done that ‘work’ and still are rolling around in all those patterns. Yikes! I still love them, but I don’t have to participate in that!

  63. sb - I have 2 Aunts who I have adopted as ‘moms’ (my mother passed away about 8 yrs ago) and my daughter’s great uncle as my dad. They love/appreciate the extra attention so it is good for them too!

  64. Oh yeah I call her Mommy Dearest after the movie based on Joan Crawfords life. My dad never believed my brother and I when we would tell him things about her because she’s able to switch on and switch off around him. My brother told my dad at 2 years old that he was so happy when dad was home more because he could protect him from mom. It’s only been of late that my dad and I have even talked about my mother. Most of the time my dad even now just ignores all of it. He still has to travel most of the year for work. I do wonder though what will happen when he retires will they stay married? Will she be able to control herself? The marriage has worked because he’s gone most of the time and she can be as crazy as she wants. You’d never know if you met her either because she’s so good at hiding it. She serves on every board at her church everyone thinks she is great. Joan Crawford was the same way great in public hellish toward her kids.

  65. Just wanted to add that my brother told my dad in a 2 year olds way of talking he was happy he was home and able to protect him. LOL I saw that I made him sound like a genius who could speak full sentences. LOL ;)

  66. You may want to consider having some of her church buddies help you out with her care, sb. Give you some down time. I know a family well who did not do this with their grandmother and it was a disaster for the family. Finally, they got in some hospice care at the end but only because the granddaughter who had taken over the care went over the edge and had to be hospitalized. Being sole caregivers took its toll on the family. I don’t know your situation, so it is just a thought and suggestion.

  67. sb - my daughter’s first ‘word’ was a full sentence at age 7 months, you never know!

  68. My mom has a lot of doctors she goes to and I’ve been taking care of her since I was a child that’s just the way it is. My brother and father can’t or won’t help. Her friends will help out once in awhile but they have lives too. Most of the time they will just take a couple hours out of their day to listen to her talk about all her issues on the phone.

  69. sb - I feel you still have options about your mom if you want them. if you don’t ‘take care of’ her as much, maybe she’ll be forced to look at things differently? just a thought. it’s a tricky scenario, but I do think you can disengage if you want to. IMHO

  70. Well when you are dealing with a bipolar person it’s difficult. One day she is independent the next day she can’t do anything. It’s up and down now that I’m older I understand what I’m dealing with. But, when I was younger it was a nightmare because I didn’t. Her other physical health problems are almost secondary to her mental illness. She’s really got no one else my father just ignores it and stays on the road for work. My aunt told me her mother and her worked day and night to hide my mother’s illness from everyone. Which wasn’t a helpful thing for anyone but I guess my grandmother who had major depression issues herself didn’t want to deal with it either. I guess I’m just waiting for the day when all the meds and doctors can’t float her along and than my father will have to get involved and we will have to decide what to do.

  71. sb - it sounds very tricky. good luck with it!

  72. Miriam,
    It takes a strong person to disconnect from family members who are toxic. We can suffer through a lot of guilt, but I congratulate you on your courage.

  73. Johny,
    You are quite the computer artist!
    Love to you also.

  74. Roxanne, and SB,
    I would imagine just about everyone here has gone through some very tough times with family and our past.
    My mother died when I was five years old and the 3 of us kids got moved around a lot and then my father remarried. It was no piece of cake, but you know the old saying:
    What doesn’t kill me makes me stronger.

  75. SB,
    I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if your Mom has a symbiot inside of her driving her to behave in a schitzoid manner.
    I know from hearing from Roger, the abductee, what this is like and it is so insidious.

  76. Thanks Peggy…I just hope that all our family members are wakened and healed with our freedom and that we can be reunited.

  77. When my mom gets mad I sometimes expect her to shapeshift. She’s never done it but I’ve said to myself: What is she really? I just have this weird feeling that she’s not really all she appears to be. I’ve been calling her the wicked old witch since I was very very young. I’m afraid I still do it I even sing: Ding dong the witch is dead song from Wizard of Oz when I’m mad at her LOL It can get to the point where we are acting out some strange war between good and evil with each other. I haven’t reversed on this yet because I’m a coward really what I’ve seen of her can be so demonic I don’t want to know anymore.

  78. Just wanted to add about the symbiot issue I’ve caught her just staring at me sometimes. The look in her eye is as if someone else is taking over her. I’ll say: What? She will smile at me in a weird way and say: Nothing. It can get very frustrating. When I was younger she would constantly go through my things but I never new what the heck she was even looking for.

  79. sb, maybe she wants to eat you “I’ll get you my pretty”

  80. LOL :D

  81. I call my grandmother the wicked old witch. She is one! She was emotionally cruel when I was growing up. I washed my hands of her at 14…of her and her religion. Of course, I’m going to hell for that. (And everytime I am going through a rough patch, it is “God” who is punishing me because I abandoned him according to my mother. He sounds pretty needy…I’m not a fan.) Now that I’ve found this website, I am taking a closer look at this old woman with new eyes. She has done so much damage to generations of people. When she is on her knees praying (begging, more like it!) for hours, she doesn’t realize who she is talking to. But I do! And I now find it no wonder that she was such a harpy. I would not accept her notion of what God is, and “they” didn’t like it. I told my mom fairly recently (well before I found this blog) that we were slaves and she LOST it on me. Maybe my mom is right when she says that “god” is punishing me…her god. But it still won’t work. I won’t bow down before it or worship it. Especially now that I know my suspicions about it were right!

  82. You go girl! :)

  83. Yeah, I’m kinda rebellious. But in a quiet sort of way…:wink:

  84. I’ve seen my father’s face change too! His nose comes out of his face to stick right in mine too, even as he stands 8 feet away. Weird!

  85. Sara,
    The religions do a tremendous amount of damage in programming and then the guilt and fear of not being a true believer.
    Probably most of us have been through a lot of what you have.
    I grew up in a very Catholic home but turned my back on it at about 19 or 20. I’m sure my stepmother never stopped praying for me, but ultimately, we came to a peaceful place since she understood that I was not turning my back on God. I was actually searching harder than the rest of the kids who were mainly disinterested.

  86. The new age church is to me worse than the old age church now. The new age church owns the alternative ideas movement. It’s gotten to the point where the opposition is now just a bricked in cell. You get led in with different ideas and than you can’t leave. God forbid you question anyone in the new age/alternative movements. They say they question but only enough to be different from the old programming now they are the new programming and in many ways far more dangerous. That’s why reverse speech is such a joke to them. And even the ones that look at it will eventually debunk it if it can’t be used to serve their ideas. I don’t see any new age people doing reverse speech do you?

  87. well, the ones who are, I guess they aren’t new age anymore. I agree sb, it’s a ‘isn’t it wonderful but don’t rock the boat’ scenario once again.

  88. Same sh*t, different face.

  89. And Peggy,
    My mom hasn’t stopped praying for me either and neither has my oldest sister. My mom has been told more times than I can count that I have not abandoned God (although we here use different titles). And, like you, I have searched much harder than any of them ever have. They just plod along, going to church and judging people. Actually, my mom is one of the sweetest of people but she’s horrified me recently with some of the things she’s said about people. It saddens me.

  90. I think new age and organized religion are the same coin different side. Just as arrogant, and holier than thou as before. I don’t see a difference, just different words of who will save you.

  91. My mom told me yesterday that if I just came over to her side aka her religion that I would be special and I would get special treatment from god. I kid you not. I wanted to barf I said no thank you. I know who your god is and I wouldn’t want to hang with it for an eternity.

  92. From the time I was a little child I knew there was something wrong with churches. Of course I thought it was me, for the longest time, I thought I must be evil. Not so. I was right all along. There is only “ONE”, and it’s not all the you must worship and bow down to me entities out there.

    Peggy, I do have a question. You said you used to be a member of Eckancar. (Years Ago, at the beginning of the New Age hoopla.) One night in a very lucid dream, I was with a male who I didn’t know. He had long white hair and blazing blue eyes. He gave me something in my left hand. Then he said close your left hand and point with right to the monkey on the shelf behind him. I closed my left hand and I saw light traveling up my arm and felt it whoosh through my body and out my right index finger at the monkey, and it changed into a dog. There was a loud blast and I woke up thinking a bomb had gone off in neighborhood it was so loud! I wondered about this dream. It was so vivid. ~ Weeks later while searching for something to read in the library, I came across an Eckancar book and lo and behold the male was on the cover. Talk about freaking me out! I didn’t get the book. But I know the name to be Master Fubbi Quantz. So, I’m curious….what of this group called Eckancar and their masters?

  93. I was way worse about religion Julia. They would tell me heaven was going to be church for an eternity. And I would be so upset at that idea because I hated church! I would have rather gone to hell frankly.

  94. Julia looks like you aren’t the only one who has run into him in a dream/lucid state:

    http://www.eckankar.org/Masters/Fubbi/Story04.html

    I guess these beings could be in the heaven realms or the higher bands as Monroe calls them. But, I really wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out to be the reps playing actor yet again. Most things seem to be them. I guess Peggy could do a reverse on it I know nothing about this religion or have any experiences with it myself.

  95. sb,
    I’ve had so many things occur to me in my life and never had an outlet, because if I told anyone they would think I was nuts. Unfortunately, they (the reps) have everyone convinced that aliens don’t exist. Not true. They do, they do. I’ve seen them up close and personal, not by choice. And they were not friendly. So you can see why I want to know about Master Fubbi Quantz.

  96. I with you on a lot of that I’ve had so many wild experiences that I still haven’t shared all of them even here. If I told a regular person they would probably call the police on me. LOL My only experience with a being that tried to pass itself off as a master with me was when I was doing an OBE in one of the astral realms. It seemed like he wanted to pass himself off as Jesus to me. But, I just looked at him and he backed away from and I kept going. For some reason a lot of these other wordly beings are afraid of me. I don’t know why though really. I did get a reverse speech that they are afraid of me because I’m ‘further out’ and I can see them here. I’ve had run ins with a lot of them. And I’ve seen so many of them back away from me in fear. LOL It’s funny in a way cause I’m like what? What are you scared of? Then I’ve had those who try to abduct or attack in me in the astral and I fight them off most of the time. There are so many experiences it’s amazing. The weirdest one was when I was out of my body and I was just out on my driveway just playing I stayed on the earth level. But this shapeshifter came up and shifted into a wolf. It was going to attack me. It’s back legs got broken by someone. Maybe it was me I don’t know but I didn’t touch it. Anyway I see this demonic being dragging itself in wolf form across the street screaming in pain. Wow it’s like all that is, is so crazy!

  97. sb- wow - pretty wild! glad you were able to survive that and the other attacks! whew!

  98. sb,
    I’ve only popped out of my body once. It just happened. Scared the crap out of me, I must say, cause I didn’t know what was happening, then poof I was at ceiling level feeling like I was part of everything, warm and fuzzy, full of love. Drifting from room to room checking out the lights around everything. Then I went into my kids room and while I was looking at them lovingly, my son woke up and pointed at me, Mommy, NO! And it was like a rubber band, I snapped back immediately to hear my son calling me over and over. ~ I do have quite alot of lucid dreams though. I’m not sure if I’m lucid dreaming or out on a soul walk, because I’m always in my house. ~ Other than the aliens I’ve come into contact with….I’ve really only had one nasty encounter with a female in my kitchen during one of my lucid dream states. I opened the door into the kitchen and saw my daughter, but when she turned to look at me I knew it wasn’t her and I said, hey….your not Skye! And she moved towards me and said real nasty with an angry look in her eye, No, I’m not, boogity boogity boo! And wiggled her fingers at me. I just shut the door and went back to bed thinking, what the f…k was that all about? As far as fighting goes, I always fight them when I’m in a sleep paralysis state. They can’t seem to figure out how I can sit up and get my body up out of the bed. I did it almost every time. I haven’t had one of those experiences in a long while, thank the ONE!

  99. I just wanted to tell everyone who said something about their mom. My mom was brought up Catholic. Yuck…puey, ewww….but anyway, I’ve been talking to her about the world we live in, and what I’ve learned and she actually listens to me. I have a tendency to not let her get away with complaining about this person and that person, or news/political topics such as illegal aliens around me. I gently tell her how she isn’t being loving towards these people and shouldn’t judge them so harshly especially since she hasn’t walked in their shoes. She stops immediately and watches what she says. (Until I go home I’m sure….lol!) But it’s weird, because I feel like I’m her mother. I had to put my dad (who lives with me) in his place the other day gently. He wanted me to agree with him on the topic of the Arabic speaking people trying to board the plane…and that guy was right dammit…I wouldn’t want to get on a plane with some Arab speaking in his own language. I looked at him and said, “Dad, so your telling me that if the Terrorist from 911 were a Scotsman like you, it would be alright from then on to automatically label all Scotsman terrorist because they speak in their native tongue?” I didn’t hear a peep out of him again about that. The truth hurts sometimes….especially when your feeling self important.

  100. Oh that sleep paralysis stuff is so childish. I’ve had them try and do that to me everytime I pop up and come out swinging. They’ll freeze me and start trying to put an implant in my ear. You can literally hear a gasp when you pop up and try to hit them. I remember a lady her name is Holly she runs a ufo yahoo group. Anyway she said some greys showed up in her room to abduct her they tried to freeze her but she got up and just pushed them out of her room. She said they were so shocked that she had the ability to do this to them. I guess most people are easy to control.

  101. sb,
    Your so funny! I’ve never come up swinging, but popping up and standing to see what the heck they were doing in my house I did all the time. One time I sensed something was wrong, popped up and caught the creeps trying to do something to my son! Man did that piss me off. You know how you sound in that state? Your voice is all weird. I ran at them screaming…..I command you to let him go, leave him alone!!!! They all turned in shock….lol! But then I felt something big grasp me from behind, and I went out like a light dammit! Oh, I think I may have hurt one pretty bad one night though. I woke up to something biting my stomach (or what felt like a bite), and I grabbed it. It was small, I muttered some commands that they had no power over me evil one, ripped off it’s head and threw it out the front door. I’m not a violent person, so this shocked even me.

  102. whoa,Julia! Yet another Warrior woman on this board! You go girl!

  103. Roxanne,
    First thing I did when I got up in the morning, was open the front door to see if it was there….LOL!

  104. J - I’m gonna start looking too! I think you’re on to something. Who knows, maybe the intent to look to find is helpful in more ways than we consciously know.

  105. Julia was it a reptilian that grabbed you from behind?

  106. Yup, a whole bunch of warriors here. Give the reps hell. They are truly cowards and would much rather deal with easy prey.

  107. Freedom Fighter on October 1st, 2007 at 8:10 am

    This warrior has a policy. It’s children, elderly, and animals first, and then I’ll help everyone else who needs it.

  108. This RS is about The Fairy Realm, specifically about the time(2001?) when I had Brownies remove two crystals from my body while I slept. I was never before now and RS able to find out about it:
    **************
    F: Brownies took a Blue and Yellow crystal from my body one night.
    RS: see no air(the Brownies are invisible~ I happened to wake up and see them)
    : crystal(pulls it); get out beyond merph(from my body); the unknown(one night).
    F: It hurt.
    RS: her hurt it.
    F: the yellow one broke off.
    RS: fuck work know( one broke and they know they messed up)
    :will lay(yellow one stays in me)
    F: Is it still in me?
    RS: him it lists did see. (I’m asking a list of questions, and I did see it break off and stay)
    F: Did the Brownies help me? Did I need these crystals?
    RS: with this it was ‘no see air’; clean me out this what succeed.( yes it was a help to me)
    F: What did the merphs want with the crystals in me? Why were they in me to begin with?
    RS: knows harm with it; him knit closer/saucer in me; it hurts in net; yeah there we are.(the crystals were used to hurt me. A way to keep me closer to them and monitor me in the net. The ’saucer’ would be like a transmitter, which crystal can be when programed.)
    F: Are there any crystals left in me that still work?
    RS:there are; surf the net(crystals); aim the fell sword(left in me); power wants that(still work).(the broken crystal still works to help the reps as an implant. ‘Aim the fell sword’ means the final blow to an enemy, or removing the last piece will be a blow to the reps for me)
    F: How do I get rid of the rest? I will ask the Brownies to take the rest out.
    RS: do I take out; fought I do; fails it(they failed at taking the whole thing out);
    saddle up, excite; you should see ‘um no air. (I should ask the Brownies to help me)
    F: Did the Brownies want these for themselves to keep; these crystals?
    RS: seein’ out; the elf seethe; was little we risk/wish this; we succeed;
    F: What did the Brownies do with the crystals they took from me?
    RS: we lose; almost there; we should get this.
    *** what happened was that they wanted the crystals for themselves because they thought they would be able to “see out” of the net. It was not that much of a risk to fulfill their wish and it made the elf angry. They did get most of the crystals and thought they had succeeded, but it didn’t work because of the failure when they left the broken part behind.
    They really do want the other part that is still in me! And since it is hurting me and I want it out it is a win-win situation!
    ***Brownies are not that interested in helping though; they are on the side with The One now but:
    F: Are the Realms with The One and can I count on them for help?
    RS: and now with us; smile see that(I did!); what help~ may not annoy. (they do things for themselves~ if it helps others fine, but don’t bother them…)
    ***And that is my story…Really happened! And I am going to get this other piece out of me ASAP!
    **********
    PS~ I remembered to ask:
    F: Why did I have blue and yellow crystals in my body? What is the significance of blue and yellow? What does blue and yellow do?
    RS: if I had it now, will light net(blue and yellow); so sick(crystals), heat up; this is it know significance~ while I net, so sick(crystals); worse.
    *****I had fevers and an overactive thyroid and immune system from this. Lots of loosh from pain and illness…

  109. You mean “the FAIR realm” just want to get that off of my chest before we start tripping up over each other, thanks for them reversals, I hope you get that crystal out and start to recover (with a little help for them little guys of course),
    Yellow + Blue = Green (Crystals)
    Moon’s true color = sallow Green (Reptilian base)
    Reptilians skin color = Green
    -
    Are you starting to see the pattern Miriam
    Personally I love the color green because it reminds me of freshness and plant growth, Grrr them reptilians have to ruin everything.

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  111. I have green eyes! I thought of the color mix, but didn’t ask about it. Makes sense though!
    I think Old English calls it the Faeries and there are many names and spelling, no need to trip over that.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farie
    You said you had an experience with them as well.

  112. I have had a few experiences, what you must understand is that I have always been able to hear while I sleep, It’s not innate to me because everybody can do it, it’s just I stay in that frame (of coming out of sleep/ inbetween sleep and being awake) a lot longer than other people Thanks to my calm nature, but my experience with the little people is so small and here it is “while I was asleep I could hear little feet running around my bed” I wont know exactly what that experience was until I gets a recorder, If you want Miriam you can ask what was dancing around my bed at them early hours of the morning.

  113. I also had another experience which I now realise was reptilian, I was trying to go to sleep and I heard in my ear an unpleasant exhale, the ignoring it I heard it again, then trying to ignore it even more while telling myself I was imagining it I heard it and then a second later I was asleep, I’ve always suffered for insomnia so I think the rept may have done something to get me asleep.
    I don’t have experiences anymore, so I think it must have been the specific house I used to live in.

  114. They say fairies wear the color green because it’s the color of the earth or an earth color. It’s nice to know you have green eyes Miriam, because it’s quite a rare eye color now-a-days.

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  116. Yeah, could be a trick site. Someone wanting some sort of business. Best to ignore it.
    Thanks for sharing again your ‘little people’ experience. I remember now you telling about them. They were probably running around checking you out and seeing what they could take! Scamps!
    I’m calling on the Brownies, but I will wait a week or so before checking it out again.

  117. artshoe~ you had said that “it is never lupus”.
    Here is evidence! After all the herbal, homeopathic, and energy healing I have done with nothing to heal it(though I have gotten benefit and healthier), here is the ultimate problem.
    My husband always said that he thought the fevers were like a dragon in me. He was so right!
    And my left side is always weaker or achier and that is where the crystal is.
    I’ll let you know what happens. Think of RSing(if you don’t already) when you do healing work.
    sara m~ I am sure that you and Peggy have worked on this with RS, but maybe ask again …?

  118. Putting this here artshoe for my future reference, thanks!

    artshoe on October 16th, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    Miriam, thanks for the link. I read it a before, but I missed the colloidal silver.
    And btw I got something else. ( a few days ago I thought about your crystals…)
    Here (part of) your RS on it. And something hold me on it….
    RS: knows harm with it; him knit closer/saucer in me; it hurts in net; yeah there we are
    – The crystals were in you, and they want them out. WHY??? Normally they stick IN. It hurts in net - can also be: this crystals were your protection, and it hurts the net (so they want it out to let the net be stable…..)
    F: Are there any crystals left in me that still work?
    RS:there are; surf the net(crystals); aim the fell sword(left in me); power wants that(still work). — it YOUR Sword I guess, The Power- the ONE?
    Yellow is the color of the solarplexus chakra (you know ;-) ) and there is “where the guts are”. Your Power!
    F: How do I get rid of the rest?
    RS: do I take out; fought I do; fails it
    saddle up, excite; you should see ‘um no air. (no mist there ;-) ??)
    It is a thought, and in context of all I know about- may this one fits more(??)
    Big Hugs to you and ALL

  119. Miriam,

    thanks for sending me to this link. Peggy and I should do some Reversing before I move I guess! This is all very interesting. I have been sick with different things throughout my life. Of course at the present moment I think I am sicker than I have ever been. It is almost like the life is being sucked out of me. I have severe pain, am completely exhausted etc. With the reversals that Peggy has done on me we know that of course the repts are the ones causing this. I haven’t asked how to get better though. Funny, it never even occurred to me to ask this. I guess that will be my biggest question.

    Again, thanks for thinking of me!

  120. Sara M you said
    “It is almost like the life is being sucked out of me”
    which is exactly right.

  121. artshoe~ I have thought and considered your interpretation, but there are elements here:
    F: Why did I have blue and yellow crystals in my body? What is the significance of blue and yellow? What does blue and yellow do?
    RS: if I had it now, will light net(blue and yellow); so sick(crystals), heat up; this is it know significance~ while I net, so sick(crystals); worse.
    **** This is important because it shows that I was “so sick” with the crystals in me, while I am in the net(light net+ give energy to the net).
    Thanks for sharing that with me, though; it was good to hear another interpretation.

  122. PS~ Just to clarify “so sick” I have been ill with thyroid and immune disorder from the time I was teen(it started developing even earlier, but began showing up more strongly as a teen and young adult~ never looked into). It was finally diagnosed properly when I was an adult, but long before I knew any of this. I have been “so sick” for a long time.

  123. Miriam I’m sorry to hear that, I’ve know people with overactive thyroids and swollen thyroids etc. and I’ve read stuff over the years about stones and foods which can help although I can’t remember any of them, if I come across them again I’ll copy and paste it here for you, then you can RS asking if them specific things can/will help you.

  124. My thyroid is actually healed now, Johny! It just simply healed. My doctor said that 10% of thyroid patients heal~I finally won something! And being off of The Pill (and starting menopause) was a big help too(that is not what started the problem, I had it before, but the Pill is known to stress the thyroid more). I use liquid iodine and paint a 2×2 inch patch on my forearm or the tops of my feet. Recommended by a health info site. Iodine is food for the thyroid, as natural salt does not give enough, you have to eat sea food or kelp for sufficient amounts and I am allergic to that. When the iodine stays on your skin, you have enough. You can’t absorb more than you need.
    I do this every couple of weeks.
    Mostly i wanted to let artshoe know that the removal of the crystals by the brownies didn’t cause my illneses. Over the years I got worse in fact. So let us hope that I recover completely.

  125. Last part of story about the brownies and the crystals:
    F: Were the crystals something I needed.
    RS: mess, so sick/must serve sith below; ya nip, get in.
    (the crystals made me sick and were used to serve the reps)
    wF: Who put the crystals inside me.
    RS: so sick(crystals); they are snit him.
    (notice how “crystals” are always “so sick”; they are used by the reps).
    F: Who used me to store the crystals.
    RS zoo he moo him; we load, so sick(crystals).
    (we are cattle and can be used as such. The reps “loaded” them into me).
    F: So the snitch placed them, why. What did they have on them.
    RS: seduce; I met seal, yoww; yeah , men not.
    (They were meant to seduce me to their side, and had no part of men).
    F: Were there codes in the stones for me.
    RS: there no breathe; sin it; annoyed.
    (no life in the stones, it was full of wrong doing or sin, I was annoyed)
    F: Did the Brownies come and take the broken piece in my side.
    RS: seeing eye witness/with us, yes, with night; see give me burr(a piece of irritant); see I knit.
    (it is out and I am fine).
    F: these stones were never mine and I did not need them.
    RS: seen, was annoyed, on did lean mud.
    (I didn’t want them or need them; they were filth inside me.
    ***************
    dear artshoe, I hope you can see that these crystals were used against me and are now gone. They are not and have nothing to do with Diamonds. The Brownies thought that because they were from the reps they would be able to see past the net and get outside the net.
    OOps on them..oh well…

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  129. OK, the more i read from this website the more amazed i become.
    Really, all my life iVe thaugth that my head is spinning in fantasys and storys few can relate to.

    As i can read, all my knowledge is worth nothing to you guys. 2012- mayan Calendar is ha Rep hoax in ur eyes. ( i suggest seeing the Ian Xel Lungold made Clips on googlevideo/youtube about the mayan calendar, or wisit the page http://www.mayanmajix.com , and check out the files and articles there, cus we are acctually on the same side here, its just you who blame ALL “reality” to be lizzards/reptilians and Clones)

    So meditation is dangerus, reps get in ur head.—
    the hara chrisna ppl are then all Clones!?
    who is your Allies? who and what is not Reptilian?
    What about shamanism, paganism and so on?

    I dont try to be Rude or annything in that road, maby a little bit sarcastic at times, but no harm ment. Every aspekt of fantasy and creation amazes me, I love it, I Love life, i practice death and see GOD in ALL.. But im not Allmighty and indestructible, i tend to have authority problems, and im a ww1- ww2 historian, healing beeing, i see myself as a Light worker, i also have well intergrated and ballanced darcness inside of me. Reptilians have been in my consiusness since age 6, i do not fear them, Nor want i to do them harm, as i see them as GOD’s creation too.

    I hope not to offend you by saying, that my stomack tells me you may be reptilians who have seen the light? reptilians trying to enter the realms of 5-6-7-8D ?
    Reptilians thinking you are humans, seeing your own reflection in the cosmos Mirror..

    I belive all beeings are represented on Earth, all beeings Incarnated.. It is on Earth Universal peace will come.

    If anny of you are interested ill gladly speak with you on skype or something, you may reverse me speaking :)

    innerpeace and Love

  130. I met a man with wings once. They were attached to his back. I went through a series of forgetting everything we spoke about that day after a funny white horse pill. I remembered everything else. Things in my soul started to stir one year later. I remembered the conversation I had with the man with wings. My best answer I can give you is I don’t think the man with wings was evil. He was stern and he did like to argue like I did. Isn’t the carnage thing a bit overly done on this site? You have to be perfectly perfect and good or some demon being munipulating. It is my reaction to fear of course from what I was told and discussed that day. It leaves me in a state of confusion actually. These posts have taken this subject from demons/angels=same thing to what you people eat even. No kidding! 8 to 9 posts of being vegan or they do eat meat. I sense great fear from you cause you’re afraid the e.t.’s want to eat you. Here’s my answer to you and myself to avoid this stupied emotion I call fear. I’d tell this to the man with wings as well. Nothing like a good babble story to avoid demands and doom. So here goes:

    I was born in a small town. My dad promised me a horse one day. We had one acre of fenced property and I thought for sure when my dad went out to the auction he would of brought me home a horse. Well, my mom and dad showed up. I could see them pulling a trailer and dust flying everywhere as they shot down the dirt pathway to our drive way. I ran out to go hug my new horse cause I knew the wagon had something in it. It wasn’t a horse when I got there. It was a cow. She was a beautiful cow. I hugged Jenny that day and I took her in never riding her cause she had a mind of her own and she just liked food and to play with me instead. She would race me down the pasture when I got home from school. She ate oranges from my hand and loved to be scratched behind her ears. Her neck and beautiful coat that was pure mediem brown would like a good scratching and petting too. I became close to my new pet cow over the year and took her in as my pet.

    Well, my dad being the jerk that he was took my pet cow to the butcher one day while I was at school. He got meat from my pet and stuck her corpsed body in the freezer for us all to dine if we needed beef…

    It was very upset. He didn’t care if I had tears. When I didn’t want to eat her he became angry!

    So! I’m an adult now. I look at my dad as a cruel man. I never talk to him. I even kept a different last name for years now cause I hated to hear the name that was his. I still refuse to forgive him. I do however eat meat though. In the slaughter houses and butcher places people walk around like my dad. They never embrace their cows. They never race them down the pasture,nor comfort them with scratches and pets to their backs. They don’t love on them. They breed them in numbers and distance themselves keeping them just like my dad raised Jenny my pet cow. I was the one whom loved her. Those cows and I or you might be like that to some of the E.T’s
    But what about the E.T.’s whom have embraced us? What about the E.T’s that have gave us something we we didn’t even know it was them. Loved us like their very own.

    You really have to think people. The E.T’s are human in that sense. It isn’t about they are all evil. Just like humans they all have different personality types. We just have to come to terms with that. I hope this story helps. Do not be afraid to eat meat. And please consider the fact that there is many E.T’s
    Not all E.T’s are one in the same…

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