Jim McCanney On PX and Comet Holmes
I listened to Jim McCanney’s Thanksgiving audio where he is talking about the many planet X’s and Comet Holmes. Like everyone else, in reverse, he is telling us that PX is on course and incoming. He mentions that the demons will exit and other information that everyone knows in the reverse speaking part of the mind that is shut to most except those who listen to RS.
My thoughts are in parenthesis.
Here is the first forward clip:
jim-mccanney-1-clip-1.mp3
Forward: He’s talking about electricity from the sun.
Reverse:
The opposite, time would sit still. (We’ve been hearing that time is a false construct here. Time standing still is an awe-inspiring concept.)
The opposite, time would sit still.
Forward:
Reverse:
Earth, see outside. (I’ve heard we’ve never seen the real view.)
Forward:
Reverse:
Say it’s small, to mock the sail. (Comet Holmes is more important than it is being described.)
Say it’s small to mock the sail.
Reverse:
There’s idiots (I’m not sure just who he is referring to but probably the “experts” saying that the comet nucleus is only 2 miles across.)
Full Forward Clip 2:
Forward:
Reverse:
You’ve got no idea. (It seems all of the scientific concepts here are very limited.)
Forward: (The next five reversals came from this clip.)
Reverse:
It be on course (come on PX!)
Reverse:
All beef and I’ll learn. (Everyone is going to know what has been going on here in secret.)
Reverse:
All that, and the answer, wake up. (Waking up is so very hard to do except if you listen in reverse.)
All that, and the answer, wake up.
Reverse: (In forward speech he is stating the two extremes of PX coming tomorrow, or a million years from now and he is saying there is no scientific basis for this.) (Again, timing in RS can be confusing as he states both this year and next year. I’m hoping for 2008.)
This year, give this mass.
Reverse:
Next year a pass. (Here we have next year.)
Forward:
Forward
Reverse:
First, demon exits.
Forward:
Reverse:
Promise, they’re a demon, exit scat and out, then nail. (The demons will be captured while trying to escape.)
Promise, they’re a demon, exit scat and out, then nail.
Jim McCanney makes references to being abducted, put in a chamber to download certain information. I decided not to put the actual reversals in as they contain some personal information that I prefer not to state. He does however make a reference to Hale Bopp being a part of this experience. I couldn’t get any more information about Hale Bopp though.
Forward:
Reverse:
The Lord will beat them. Send the loving. (That’s what is coming for all of us.)
The Lord will beat them. Send the loving.
In spite of the fact that we are living in a world that is simply awash is beliefs, contradictions, theories, arguments and lots of different opinions, in reverse, there is a lack of contradiction. For those who may be new here, RS is not always clear, nor easy to understand since the RS mind is dealing with speech limitations, however, if you listen to conscientiously, you will hear the same basic story over and over. That is what has convinced me and many others here who listen that what we are hearing is the truth.
These are absolutely beautiful reversals, Peggy!
Very encouraging!
The universal Mind is speaking so clearly here, and I am so grateful you continue to do this work and present us with this truth! Thank you!
PS there’s that 7/8 again!
Great reversals. Could it be that ‘this year’ means, ‘within the coming year’, and ‘next year’, the year after that? ‘Give this mass’ may be the announcement and so-called discovery of Planet X. Planet X, or the idea of it coming would be ‘given’ to us at that point in the form of an announcement or sighting. This reversal clearly indicates it will be a mass based body and not a cloud or energy. It seems these ‘next year’ reversals started a couple of months ago, so maybe on or before Sept. 2008 is the announcement/sighting, and Jul-Oct 2009 is the arrival or ‘pass’?? Thoughts? 2007 is just about gone. If so, time is incredibly short and we won’t have to wait long, then at some point there maybe no time at all according to the reversals above. Hard to conceive of a reality without time, but a welcome one.
P.S. all of the dogs in the neighborhood seemed to barking for quite a long time for no good reason very early this morning. Our cat was anxious to get inside too. Could be nothing, but seems like something is up as others have stated. Anyone’s animals acting unusually?
Excellent work again peggy.I like(the lord will beat them,earth see outside,and first demon exit.)Looking forward to the allies showing up now.Still loads of love.xxzandogxx.
Mine are doing their seasonal shift from “only pet me when I am outside, and feed me” during the summer, to being snuggly during the cold weather. Yoshi, the male is still antsy to be outside.
What I am surprised at is the negotiating between them so that they can both be in my room at nite. It is usually Sylvia’s territory, but Yoshi wants to be close too.
But nothing acute….though they are a cute…;>
Peggy ~ you make it so easy to understand. I still get a little confused when trying to decipher what I RS, but it getting better. Now on, the year, give this mass. Could it be that we are seeing Comet Holmes now. And Nest year, because of the Comet we will see or experience some kind of pass? I hope so.
atomic240 ~ the only weird thing I’ve noticed is how loving my cats have been lately. Big Leona has been all over me lately. And Sassy, who is usually stuck up and not a lap cat, has been very very affectionate. Rubbing all over the family members and talking to all us. ~ oh, and sb, I did an RS on Gretchin the pup. She said, “Love you” and “This is bullshit!” Little bit of a potty mouth, but I was teasing her a little at the time…lol!
atomic240 McCanney talks about the electrical winds we are experiencing on earth when we get a disturbance in the solar system how much do you want to bet that animals and people react to that? I know where I live in Kansas we have high winds for days now with no end in sight.
Yeah Julia~ my cats are extra lovey…you pup is funny!
Peggy
Great work as always! He really paints a picture in reverse and that timeframe still popping up every so often.
When I had a fever a day ago I watched a documentary about the Aztecs and the people in Peru. They say that earthquakes and great disasters always follow a full solar eclipe. I checked the timing of full solar eclipses over Irak and There will be one over that area 2008 August. Placing the suspected Portal smack in the middle of that cosmic event.
Well, that is an interesting addition JohanP! Mark your calenders!
I may be only a partial eclipse according people on Nasa. Can’t find were I first read it…
“It” not “I”.
This isn’t it but is related Johan:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=114121
Here’s another video of Comet Holmes by John Lenard Walson posted by Gridkeeper. You can definately see that Comet Holmes is not alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esj9vsshxB4
That’s the best one yet, Julia!
Could it be twin comets? Or a ufo? Guess I need to reverse on that ;D
Interesting what you said about the cats, I concur, we had to put our dog down in September and ever since then a cat has shown up, I thought because the dog had gone he was just expanding his territory, however he has been overwhelmingly affectionate. At this current time I am cat sitting for some friends, this cat is also showing affection, its on my bed when I sleep and wake up every night.
I got in a reverse once that cats were more than they appear to be now what that means I don’t know that’s all it would tell me.
Guardians of the underworld perhaps? Or us against them? I had a strange experience recently with my friends cat approx 1 month ago, I was in bed and felt a presence in the room, then I felt as if I couldn’t move and something was chocking me, the cat (molly) then jumped up on the bed and was purring like crazy. I mentally shifted what ever it was off and it didn’t come back. The cat never used to come up onto my bed at night, but now she’s there all the time. I will RS this experience and hopefully shed some light on the subject.
I’ve had instances were I thought my dog was guarding me. He likes to sleep by himself most of the time but a couple of times a month he will insist on sleeping with me and will not take no for an answer. I actually feel better when he does sleep with me like I’m safe. I’ve also been woken up by him at 3 am he was acting like there was something inside the house with us. Animals obviously aren’t as conditioned as us so when they sense something they don’t ignore it like a human would.
I think things around here are starting to unravel.
You took the words right out of my mouth if you are talking about the planet in general LOL Oh well let them if that’s what we need to be in balance again.
Can’t tell you where I read it, but read that cats are natural enemies of the reps.
Check out this reversal from yesterday. While I was at work in the Day Lilly garden, the birds in the trees were acting weird, then flew off in a panic. So I asked what happened. (Take my recorder everywhere now.)
F:what bothered the birds just now
R:rancid past near, wind makes it, this don’t love
It’s very simple, the reptilians are visible to animals. I have four cats who are constantly with me in the house. When I go outside, the neighborhood cats are lounging all over the driveway. I am surrounded by felines. All animals,and especially cats are aware of the reps. The bees hate them with a passion. This we know from reversals. As the net becomes thinner we will see as the animals see. It’s not going to be pretty, believe me.
Pretty or not, bring em on, I am so ready for this.
To quote Roddy Piper…” I’m here to chew bubblegum, and kick ass, and I’m all out of bubblegum”. lol
LOLOL! Where does that come from, FF?
Did you ever watch cats watch something that isn’t there to our eyes?
Or when they just stare at a wall for a long time…I know they see something.
Miriam,
That catchy phrase is from the movie “They Live”. It starred Roddy Piper [ wrestler] in this B movie about E.T.s taking over and nobody would believe poor Roddy. He had special glasses to see the aliens. It’s a John Carpenter movie, and my favorite scene is where Roddy storms the bank, and tells the aliens “I’m here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I’m all out of bubble gum” . My son used to watch that movie constantly when he was a child. It’s got some age on it, Miriam, but still a good movie to watch. I bet you can still buy it at Walmart or Amazon.com.
Yes, I know my cats can see something,especially my Persian “Baby Guy”. He’s always looking at the wall,like he’s waiting for something to come in.
Family Hug,
F.F.
I’m with you Atomic–the 7 and 8 has to be Dec 2007 and Jan 2008.
This video is old, http://youtube.com/watch?v=rD9bCdHqU3s but the part about people turning into lizards and shape shifters, as well as the thousands of aliens inside at the “Thetan level” and the “mystery schools” certainly meet the rep agenda.
Here’s one on the body Thetans 1-8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uab_H5VwJto
Anybody have any more info here about extensive mind control program being run by the rep net?
fave RS here - “First the demon exit”
I CAN’T WAIT!!!!!!
Thanks Peggy!
Oh yeah They Live! I know the movie, FF..it is classic, one of the best. I haven’t seen it in a while and don’t know the old actors…think I’ll put it on our BlockBuster que and get in the mail.
That is a great line to remember, and a great place to quote it! ;>
We have quoted the fight scene here a lot, along with the parody by the South Park kids(put on the hat!
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Scientology makes me sick. When I was at college and very young and on my own for the first time, I took their intro course….it was awful.
Yes, cats waiting for something to come in thru the wall,lol!
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Did someone have a Christmas RS about PX?
Speaking of reptilians, does anyone have Comcast with their “free movies”? Basically, especially fearnet, all of the movies fulfill the reptilian agenda: blood sucking, flesh eating, disguisting sick scenes that violate the mind.
Lucy Liu in Rise Blood Hunter is definitely the rep net:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5EYHEnfNd0&feature=related
Here she is “Undead” …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmskqwL468o&feature=related
I go to the video store and just get sick looking at all of the money and junk produced—every movie serves the rep net.
My son once lined up all the new horror movies on the wall in BlockBuster and found a pattern of gray colors on the covers; Lifelessness.
Coco ~ are you writing your last name here? Same Coco? I don’t want to get mixed up,lol.
Holy Moley Miriam, did you see that movie? How scary to do an intro with those folks–talk about scamming for money–the mind control is off the charts.
Speaking of mind control, I wondered if anyone has RSed the meditation that John Kuhles talked about in the talk show Peggy did (Yes, I too would like to see the archived version–does anyone have that link? I agree, that website is screwy and it’s impossible to find it there.) But, with all due respect to John, I think it serves the “Controller” rep net agenda with meditating on you seeing yourself outside as transparent, then each cell as tiny crystals that then turns into a mirror. The reason it serves the mind control network is that it takes us outside our selves and uses mirrors, which is exactly what the mind control “handlers” use–mirrors inside you so that you never can see what they are doing to your mind. I think meditating on broken mirrors inside you and a light that keeps growing bigger and bigger makes more sense because it deals with the mirror problem of the mind control pyramid network (if anyone doubts that premise, read this:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm
COMET 17P/HOLMES UPDATE: Now that the full Moon has left the evening sky, Comet Holmes is visible again. The comet is not as bright as it was when it first exploded in late October. Most people now have trouble finding it with the naked eye. A quick sweep through Perseus with a pair of binoculars, however, will pinpoint the comet while the smallest of telescopes reveals it to be a truly impressive object. Comet Holmes now occupies about 10 times the volume of the Sun and it is developing a hint of a blue-green tail. A similar tail was observed in early November, but it broke off during an apparent magnetic storm. Now the tail is growing back. Visit http://spaceweather.com for sky maps and the latest images.
Coco~ which movie?~ no, I don’t watch horror and I skip trailers…make me ill! I didn’t even click on your links, too scary! Don’t want that in my mind! ;>
I thought Peggy did well on the show and was diplomatic when she needed to be. I’m coming from figuring that Johni s a good man doing good work, but doen’t see how deep the rabbit hole goes and has certain belief system in place. When John did not want to be open to what Peggy was saying, he interrupted her…maybe was not even aware of doing that. Well, I said enough about John’s thoughts on the “Interview” thread(I had no intention of going there, but~ he asked why I thought he had missed some things so I answered…). He did ask Peggy to reverse him, so when Peggy has a chance perhaps she will.
I have been reading that paper, Coco. I would not want to do any meditation w/o RSing it. Just don’t know where it has come from or what it is going to do.
Miriam my dog is constantly doing that looking at something I can’t see. He will even look the invisible thing up and down like it’s a person there. Than stare at it at eye level as if there was someone there. I’ve said to him: Don’t let them get to you. LOL Most of the time he is very quiet about it but once in awhile he will growl low and it freaks me out! One time he jumped off the couch and attacked thin air he was giving it all he had.
Yep, it’s me, Coco, Miriam. Sorry, I added my last name when I changed browsers yesterday. I’m going to go back to just coco–didn’t even realize I did it. My name’s all over the internet, so I don’t care anymore. And man, did they ever scam my name. When you aren’t part of the rep net, they try to take you down big time.
Did anyone notice the high volume of earthquakes in the Pacific (just got one for 7.3 in the Bahamas tho too), and warnings for tsunamis? just today there have been 4 in the pacific rim, and that doesn’t even count the 7.3 one in the Windward Islands.
Something’s going down, and the animals know it.
McCanney says when you get a large body aka Holmes in the solar system it will stir stuff up on the planets and the sun. So that could be why things are going off. I’m a bit of a freak as you may well know but I’ve been feeling what I call my little earthquakes all day. It will feel like a small earthquake around me but there isn’t one in my area so that’s interesting to hear that there are ones going on that are causing tsunami warnings.
The Scientology Thetan Body meme really fits nicely to fill up the meat lockers of the reps–and it’s “dead aliens inside us” too:
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/htruebt.htm
Coco Tralla (coco or coco tralla–that’s me here–sorry to confuse I’ll use coco from now on)
thanks miriam for letting me know xoxo
sorry miriam, I was talking about this movie (it’s gets into a reporter checking out the intro in scientology in england)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rD9bCdHqU3s
pretty creepy these guys … and all for $
sb, i know what you mean about earthquakes around you…i’ve had some real quaking around here just by the things that have been happening…long story but it sort of reminds me of the tarot card The Tower.
Geez, people do not know how much they are being duped! (except us, of course) But I just got an email from OfficeMax with the subject Elf Yourself brings Holiday cheer! Inside the post, it tells you to start the elfamorphous by turning your entire family into Elfs! If those dumbed up consumers only knew the true meaning of elfs….
Have you seen elf cosmetics? LOL Hmm also think about the elves and Santa aka Satan if you rerrange it. Christmas is a big old loosh event like the other big holidays.
Yeah, and the Geico lizard. It’s all around us.
Thanks for being Coco, Coco!
I now about the crap of Scientology first hand, so I really don’t want to revisit it. It was scary how they treated me. Have seen friends turn into zombies from the training…
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Oh, I saw a license plate: ROJIMP79
ROJ IMP 79
Has anybody read about this? http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1050.htm
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“Of even greater importance, however, is the alignment of these three comets (Holmes-Tuttle-Boattini) between December 18-31, 2007, and which, according to the ancient calculations of the Persian Magi, presages violent Earth upheavals, of which the last such alignment occurred on December 26, 2004, during which the catastrophic Great Earthquake and Tsunami occurred costing the lives of over 250,000 human beings.”
This site is a little (or a lot) too ‘gloom and doom” for me but has some interesting info.
More on the newest comet: Boattini
http://www.avionews.com/index.php?corpo=see_news_home.php&news_id=1082582&pagina_chiamante=index.php
If you really want to see how much the rep stuff is in everyday check this site out:
http://bedoper.com/reptilian/
This new comet part of “stand in line”?
Roxanne, OMG! Are you kidding? “…the alignment of these three comets (Holmes-Tuttle-Boattini) between December 18-31, 2007, and which, according to the ancient calculations of the Persian Magi, presages violent Earth upheavals…” - this plus the planetary alignments coming 12-21-07 to 12-25-07 - “On 2-21-07 you will see a cross formation, with the planet Neptune on the right, outside of the cross. On the vertical line: Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto. On the horizontal line: Saturn, Venus, Sun, Uranus.”
- it has got to be ‘07 and ‘08. Already seen the “Blue Star Kachina” / Holmes. Does that mean the “Red Star Kachina” / PX like super-soon. Peggy was your dream telling you/us that this will be happening in the next 9 months? Wow, fasten your seatbelts everyone, we might just be in for a wild ride!
For whatever reason I thought everything would be done by the end of this year but I can understand why people think next year in the summer because I’ve heard that in reverse but my inner feelings are in conflict perhaps I am tunning into this alignment stuff?
I think all these comets may be the debris that travels with PX at least that’s what McCanney has said in his various shows. That PX would have picked up comets and large debris with it. But, than he is in conflict and doesn’t say PX is here and says he hopes we never see it. And Holmes is so strange and I get in reverse that it lies about its form it’s truly confusing that’s for sure but hopefully it confuses the bad guys even more LOL
FF,
I like that quote about being out of bubblegum. Yeah, we’re not chewing either, we’re just kicking ass now.
Animals can see them and that is why they poisoned the pet food earlier this year. I heard them saying that the pets were trying to protect their masters who were being abducted. It pissed off the reps so they tried to kill as many as they could.
I know my dogs see them. I’ve heard them barking at night and in my half sleep state, I can hear the dogs saying “go home” go away” “get out”. The reps have also hurt my dogs, which really gets to me.
Roxanne and turtlegurl~ that is really exciting news; thanks for putting the picture together for me. ;>
still getting more puzzle pieces it seems. I have new thoughts about PX that I will not post here because of ’security’ just in case. but it’s ‘good’. CH and now ‘the boat’ It sure is interesting, yes?
Peggy - I love your doggies! (Buddy, Wolfie, Odie, Mama, Rascal, Sweetheart) I have felt their protectiveness - good ole ‘get-off-my-foot Buddy’ (ha!) and Wolfie especially - late at night when out on the patio.
just a thought, but perhaps the ‘disinfo’ that folks like McCanney includes with other good info is needed so as not to disclose too much info that could be harmful to the Alliance? hmmmm
If anything McCanney is guitly of withholding information number 1 he doesn’t want to scare people and yes number 2 he doesn’t want the elites having more info than they already have.
That is so true, sb and it goes for all of us. We are “catch 22″ in that whatever we learn and discover, we want to share here with our family, but you know it is tipping the One’s hand so-to-speak. Thankfully, if He does not want us to know about something, He tells us so in the RS…gotta love that!
So true TG but also if I think something is too sensitive that I hear in RS I won’t even post it here because I know it’s being read obviously. There are even some things I won’t even reverse that I have a feeling about because I don’t want there to even be a recording on my computer of it. We try to know what’s going on and they gobble up that info to try and survive.
I’m with you on that sb “There are even some things I won’t even reverse that I have a feeling about because I don’t want there to even be a recording on my computer of it.” yup. whatever we can hear, and perhaps even think, they can hear. I think there is a fail-safe in place by The One/Allies to prevent that but sometimes I just don’t go there either, to be safe. I’ll never forget when the Pleiadians came thru in my early days of RS - I felt like I just didn’t want them to get caught and didn’t want them to come thru again, tho of course I loved hearing from them.
Yeah, I have a feeling about certain topics I won’t even entertain…I won’t even tell you what they are here..lol.
Well glad to see I’m not the only one ;D
sb~ you are no “freak”! Not at all, very much in tune with how it really is… ;>
Me either. In my early days I kept hearing things in reverse,and I could not handle it. That’s why I’d leave the blog, because of what I’d hear. It was the One who told me to go back to Peggy’s blog, and keep listening,and not to be afraid of what I heard. I just I thought I was a “freak” too and that people would say I was strange. Considering the many times I thought of becoming a Clergy. I am so glad I didn’t. The reps would have chewed me up and spit me out if I was a Minister. Thank you One for revealing the truth to me.
Well they would have used you to keep the population ignorant you probably would have gotten a lot from it in a material sense maybe even a large church following even a tv ministry that’s the way it goes for those who get into religion very profitable. But, then I think they loose their souls in a sense.
Ha, I’m listening to a show from McCanney from Sept. I guess he hates woo-woo groups like us talking about him we are only allowed to link his page not discuss him. Does anyone find that strange? He’s a public figure but he’s going to control everything Icke has started to do this as well why are they behaving like this?
It doesn’t surprise me sb. He said as much in the radio show Peggy reversed. That people like us have no scientific proof of when PX would show. That all sorts of mis and dis info is on the internet now…buyer beware. Etc…
But his RS tells us he knows what we know. He would not be interested in RS at all.
Oh yeah I understand that I’m just curious why certain people’s work who is more above board than others are getting to be such control freaks very strange. Like I will decide how you talk about me! Okay……….geeze take a chill pill LOL
Everyone is getting very sensitive…must be feeling the pressure and want their work to remain “pure”. Like is if you are talking about someone’s work which no one else is familiar with and mis-characterizing it, it reflects back onto the author. And then it goes into the info pipe as misinfo…rather than pointing to the source and allowing him/her to answer directly.
Dissing, misinfo, misrepresenting really hurts and then you have to spend so much time cleaning up the mess that someone else made for you!
This happens just in daily life! So it is even more difficult when you are trying to be “respectable” in the “professional” world and some “crazy fringe group” starts interpreting your work as they see it…lol. ;>
But info is free! And no longer yours once you put it out there~as long as someone doesn’t attribute their interp to you. That is the difference.
Still, The pressure is on to let go…and those who identify too much and are attached to their reputation and their “lifetime” work are feeling it the worst.
Miriam
Ah interesting! =)
There is a coming quickening. When it hits many will be totally unprepared. This is not all bad, because some who have denied and denied and feared social/occupational retribution will still have time to think on their feet like a “whacko” and they will see the “good and the groomed” as loons of of lesser god. The masks will be removed. The so-called “enemies” from the skies will be merciless to the merciless. The gimmicks to capture and take as many remaining proles will be monstrous beyond comparison. But, unlike Katrina they will be the ones under pressure. You can fight them with no blame to be imputed. A badge will be less than meaningless and going into the negative with each passing second. Troops will have limited time to arrest and confiscate. Remember: Time is on your side. In fact you should play the song and know one thing if they do run back, take them out if they do not disarm. Do not trust anyone until this system is truly wrapped up totally, TOTALLY neutralized. The end of this long and lonely road is coming to an abrupt and overdue end. Do not react now. WAIT. WAIT I SAY…do not panic. It will be unmistakeable and clear when the Nibiru Intervention hits. And, hit it will. Above all, STAY, HIDE, and FIGHT, you will be located for assistance and true RESCUE. Believe NO OFFICIAL DIRECTIVE: YOU’RE not a punching bag anymore, and the so-called enforcers of that will eventually have to pull out quickly, or die. Many of you reading this will cause them deadly delay and see a LOT’S WIFE experience for many of your “serve and protect” abusers. For NOW: Everybody stayin’ free as possible right now, and calm, and doin’ their job. Remember: No TROUBLE.
Blimy the Blade,
If we were together we’d have fists raised in unison. You’ll have a lot of agreement here.
Meanwhile, we fight the invisible reptilians with out thoughts, and our focused attention to remove their food, our children.
This is working. I can hear the reptilians all the time because I found the Panasonic RRDR 60 voice recorder. It’s an old noisy recorder that has enough internal noise to give the reps a voice that is audible. If you go to several different threads here, you’ll hear them.
Focusing on helping remove the children from their grip causes them incredible anger and they are getting very hungry.
So while we sit tight, and wait for the crashing of the net, we mentally hurt them and help these little helpless kids.
Thanks for posting and welcome.
Richard Hoagland perspective on comet Holmes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQEAvbAtjvY