The Mujahedeen Lie.
Mujahedeen Tape on CBS, a total setup.
(Once again, the people who frequent this site are way too smart to fall for this kind of total mind-controlling propaganda. This is for those who happen to stumble onto this site from Googling Mujahedeen.)
If there are any people out there in TV land who are still naïve enough to think that the war on terror isn’t a total fraud, I do hope you will stop and listen to this military officer speaking forward and then what he says reversed. Thousands of American soldiers, and untold numbers of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis have been butchered for a very evil agenda that has nothing to do with protecting America, or fighting Al Quaida.
The forward audio from CBS news video supposedly revealing how children are being brought into the “terrorist network.”
Forward Segment from CBS news video:
Mujahedeen forward clip from CBS news video
Forward:
Reverse:
We’re helping to get this.
Reverse:
Build nightmare
Reverse:
Did our crime
Reverse:
Mad to see it (trying to rouse the outrage of a public being conned.)
Forward:
Reverse:
Puts the dealer in (staged)
Reverse:
And I’ll bait
Reverse:
Pushing the terrorist (It’s the old, tired, terrorist threat)
Forward:
Need the dumb and then share (this is what he thinks of the viewing public. He’s hoping the “dumb” will then tell others and everyone will want more war.)
Need the dumb, and then share.
I’m working on audio about the 5 or 6 internet cables that were cut to the Middle East. I’ll have that up asap.
Peggy, thank you for your work on it.
The RS is so clear :-). (I found out, I hear it best in the audacity I use).
Big Family Hug to you.
Thanks Artshoe,
I’m sure downloading into a software program where you can play a bit with the sound will help.
Also, different speakers make a very big difference as well as the use of ear phones, or just listening through speakers.
Peggy,
“Need the dumb and then share”. It’s worked so far, why would they change a proven formula? After 9/11, I kept telling people that the whole incident was a con, that it was staged in order to get people to want to go to war. Unfortunately, people only hear what they want to hear…and that’s usually fear and subsequent vengeance. It worked. The American people as well as the people in congress cried for war. It’s been a tactic that has been working for centuries. Hitler used it, kept telling the German people of the threat of “terrorists” and then set up a false flag event (similar to the bombing of the WTC) by blowing up/setting fire to the Reichstag. This got the common people behind him, much as the WTC bombing did for Bush. The only defense is discernment, which is in short supply on this planet. Fear has replaced it.
I just reread that post…I didn’t mean to insinuate that people are dumb (that was a copy and paste) but that they are allowing fear to be their guide which allows the “leaders” to accomplish their goals.
Peggy and all - maybe interesting for RS. A new vid about Planet X with much *speaking* on it. (and some nice pics ;-) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2AHqiapx-Q
Another one (PX) from CanadianVandal with some *maths* in..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cKmEW3TLs
scarab (btw, I like scarabs :-) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St0_wOTWdW8
Thanks for those, Artshoe. This one is real good also from Canadian Vandal. It has a lot of PX pics in…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9svklmCvpY&feature=related
This is a strictly mathematical viewpoint…
it goes like this:
What Makes 100%?
What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?
Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?
We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%.
How about achieving 103%? What makes up 100% in life?
Here’s a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions:
If:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
is represented as:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.
Then:
H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K
8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%
and
K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E
11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%
But,
A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E
1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%
And,
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%
AND, look how far *** kissing will take you.
A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G
1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%
So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that While Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, it’s the Bull**** and *** kissing that will put you over the top.
alfa bet i call order..now look in water eyes open.
Artshoe,
I’ve seen that PX series before. It is total fear mongering and mind control, “After the planet passes, we’ll need a next generation of INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS, SCIENTISTS of healthy breeding age. Most of these will not know they have been chosen until they are taken away from their loved ones….As painful as the separations will be, those who watch their loved ones being taken away will feel a GENUINE GLADNESS IN THEIR HEARTS. Meanwhile, those chosen will come to feel the weighty burden of a new and profound responsibility. The BRAVE ones WILL accept it.” Part 4 (Emphasis the announcers)
We dont know what happens after 2012 .If 4th opens threw new generation births dna ..then we can get out side help. We must delete pieces that dont fit in the big picture puzzle..because hardrive has clean disk option with Analyzing.
diementions…first is plants..second is animals, third is speech .4th is psychic.Not sure what you all mean by net of reps..only aliens i heard that cant reproduce is garys. But thats your awakening.
martix is not controled in my dreams ..past programed fears i would cause..so net is heresay. so far in my fathom.
Why cant we have outside help before jump? maybe only 5% are awake with a lust attitude of i know more then next? So help enters not interested or bizzy fiting pieces of the picture. They cant come or imagin the mixed minds.
To fragile for the reality. its cool
Peggy all I see is dumb here ..besides you and artshoe. Not dumb but followers.
artshoe is fiting pieces fast ..very bright ..you have experience but need time off to Analyze.
I hope wales win today!!
Domains- this *maths* is good. Make sence, the most people feel/forced to act like this- to do more than 100% and lost themself.
Sara, I did not watched all the vids.
Had a look around what is *online*. Even if the forward isn´t correct- there is maybe something in for RS.
And while Peggy needs *speech* in it, I thought - there is not only music in ;-)
A I guess, less people think about PX without fear. Even me. It is not that big as in many vids *said*. But to find out what is going on in ME, I watch it and decide what I want take and what is to make me *smaller as I am*.
I guess, we will find not really a vid there which is just happy. (Maybe until we make on). But to know, there could be fear anyway, makes us stronger- so it don´t *hit* us, IF there is something to fear. To notice a fear and analyze where it comes from is even better than to not look at it. But with analyzing its not overwhelming. Its just a *warn button* and a way to go on and find out more.. This is how I handle it.
Zan- good luck for wales :-)
Domains wrote *They cant come or imagin the mixed minds*
this is maybe one pic what the reptilian net means. That people have their mind/brain/souls/feelings.. bound in a web/net. Not able to even look slightly thru this. Like they are *living* in cocoons. And the space and warmth is all they know. Maybe they fear to look slightly thru, what if there is a big nothing, a endless black cold. Nobody would help them, they think. Because all others stay in their cocoons. …. This is a reason to face and analyze the fear. So I had cocoons too. But I did not fell into black cold nothing, because outside of the cocoons is The One. (And if there waiting bad boys, take a chance to defend and fight the evil. Somebody whos able to peel cocoons away have THE power to do this. This is what my experiences are and I try to communicate with cocoons where an eye is looking outside ;-) to TRUST in themself or at least me - I offer the chance to *beat* me, if I´m wrong ;-). So there is a goal for a *one-step-travel* into …. closer to freedom or beating artshoe. LOL
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Domains,
The people here are not followers. The posts have been intelligent, active discussions about all different subjects and many have had different opinions than mine. I never expect lock step here. That is why it is such an open forum.
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I do however, encourage everyone to listen in reverse since opinions and concepts are very much like assholes, everyone has them and so what?
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You should try reversing yourself. You are obviously very bright, so why don’t you try it? Is there some reason that you don’t want to hear what your mind will say back to you?
Programming and mind control here within the net, which is an electromagnetic force field is almost beyond comprehension. It goes from cradle to grave and beyond.
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When I first started talking to the spirit people, most were clueless about the reptilians. They believed in demons however, since they were attacked although nothing like what has happened in the last five years. Francis Haley told me that demons would sometimes attack him at night and bite him. He also told me they had stuck a wolf inside of him that would come to life every once in a while and make him do things that were pretty negative. Of course, Francis had died of rabies in the early 1800’s so his take on reality was rather distorted. He came into the astral with his mind still messed up from the disease.
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So even after they died, the people whom I spoke with, (about 20) were just as clueless as most people here, except they knew they survived death, but didn’t know why they were languishing in that astral world, or how to get themselves out of it.
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Once the hybrids were inflicted upon these people five years ago, it went from depressing, to horrifying.
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The human race has had no chance with the advanced mind control technologies implemented by the reptilians over the last thousands of years. They were technologically advanced many thousands of years ago, while the humans were way behind in technology.
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The humans were like children compared to the reptilians who took advantage of the situation. It isn’t the human’s fault. So while all of us here get frustrated at the “sheeple”, I do understand.
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If it wasn’t for RS, I would still be listening to channels and waiting for ascension.
Zan,
We’ll all cheer for Wales (Wales what? lol)
Domains,
The reptilians often control our dreams. They have dream manipulating technologies. That doesn’t mean that all dreams are manipulations, as some are not I’m sure. But if one has a dream that is very potent and perhaps prophetic, one should always speak about it and reverse, because you will tell yourself exactly what is going on.
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I reversed a friend’s dream. He was being seduced by the reptilians to sell out for an art career that would have taken off if he had said yes. A being offered him a lily which had honey dripping down the side. My friend touched the honey with his finger and then tasted it. The honey tasted sweet and pure. In reverse he told himself that it was bile.
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In the dream, he began to feel that there was manipulation and then he began to be attacked. He punched the attacker and went plummeting down a dark tunnel and woke up.
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His art career never took off, although he is an excellent artist. I told him to be glad, that he didn’t sell out, even if life is a struggle. In the end, he can stand up and look at his life with a smile.
Artshoe,
Thanks for the PX links. I’m downloading now as I’ve been wanting to get an update on the progress.
Wales rugby,were playing Scotland today in Cardiff,Wales capital,i’m gonna be wearing my Kilt:)That cracked me up”everyone’s got an asshole”Peggy.Ye i got one living next door:( Thanx Artshoe,good to hear from you.Luv Zan xx.
Domains,
I agree that the mixed minds would be an unsurmountable problem for any benevolent race right now to deal with in giving assistance here. People need to have a full wake up, or they will start worshiping and/or fighting again and the cycle will continue.
Oh i must’n forgett my bagpipes!:)
artshoe ~ Feeliing/thinking along the same lines as you.
**this is maybe one pic what the reptilian net means. That people have their mind/brain/souls/feelings.. bound in a web/net. Not able to even look slightly thru this. Like they are *living* in cocoons. And the space and warmth is all they know. Maybe they fear to look slightly thru, what if there is a big nothing, a endless black cold.
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Staying wrapped up in their own ego net/cocoon of emotions, unable to view or see the bigger picture. The ego steps up to defend not allowing the truth to pierce through. I see alot of this. It’s hard to let go of old habits and conditionings. It takes honesty and work within our own being to break free.
Domains~I enjoy your musings. Shaking up is what’s needed.
Zan,
We would all love to see you in your kilt playing those bagpipes and yelling for the home team. Rugby, yes, I heard all about it when Reg, from Zimbabwe was at my house. When I said something about using a bat, he rolled his eyes and said “that’s cricket”. Ops, sorry about that, but now he straightened me out and I know all about rugby.
Go Wales!
domains,
I’m about sick of your shit. I can’t speak for anyone else here, but I am not a follower. If I was, I’d still have my nose up some preacher’s ass in Church. But I will tell you one thing, I’d much rather be a follower than what you are. All you are is a “BAG MAN” for the reptilian race. You come here and collect the loosh for them, and you don’t even get a taste. Don’t fucking tell what I am and what I’m not. Everyone here has been more than fair to you, and you have done nothing but trash the goodwill extended towards you. So, they can invite you to tea, but you can kiss my ass, cause I think you are a sick Mo Fo. Get it? Good.
F.F.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
It’s a challenge becoming a warrior of spirit, to not act out, think or say anything on impulse out of self important anger and self righteos indignation and resentment. It’s all energy draining emotions. FF, can’t you see what’s going on? Your ego is being shaken.
Peaceful and beautiful. Front yard in bloom.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/jjfreebird59/43630056.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/jjfreebird59/43630055.jpg
Peach tree bloom in the garden.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/jjfreebird59/43630043.jpg
Well, we follow an idea, work on it and decide whats usefull and what bring us a next step further.
*Follower* is just a word. We give it a meaning. And why not asking *domains ,what you mean with a follower?* Or what you *filter* out of my posts to come to the conclusion *follower* *Do you see it in a negative or in a positive way* *Are you bored, alone, lonesome*
*is it you or a voice that want ´communicate´ here?*
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I have no voices in my head. Well, mine- thats enough to deal with ;-) . With no meds (like others too)- I can barely imagine how it is to deal with. But sometimes a clear voice comes out.
We all have to fight with our evils around. And we know the skin is thin these days. So let us fight this- the force to go after/against each other.
I do not say domains can act like crazy here. He has a sence for weak points. On a battle its important to know where the weak points are- to check IF its a weak point and see how to cure it, while focussing on the strenghts.
Julia, I love your front yard. Would like to be there ;-)
Touche artshoe….well said.
—used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point
Your welcome anytime artshoe.
Warrior Soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcwGvV36IuY
how about a pic in yaur kilt Zan ! i am half welsh on my fathers side,and half cherokee on mothers side :)
My ego is not shaken, as I don’t have one. I just thought it was time to let domains know I’m on to him and his game. Actually I feel ever so much better since I told him what he was. He’s a Bag Man, here to collect. He’s an owl, a wolf, a snake. I think I did the right thing, and now I’m off to polish my boots.
F.F.
whales 30 scotland 15! which pub are you holding up the bar at zan;^) FF polish boots LOL :0. i want u on my side FF ;)
artshoe il not names names ,other day i was debating about alex collier and some here told me ,hes evil and whatnot without even looking into it..just saying i fallow peggys guide lines.
Julia, I love to hear Doro (from time to time).
This is wonderful song. Added it to my favs. Cool :-)
Many people are game players. Sometimes *they* don´t know, sometimes *they* don´t know. Both sides….
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Well, I want yell too- sometimes.
And why not be a follower? If its my free will to go on an idea, or for a goal? I follow a piece of the walk which others walked long before.
And in the Spiritual Army I would follow the great deal, whatever it may cost.
I do not follow doctrines (mostly ;-), here at disneyland). Its the meaning which I give it. The word is the same.
Like the word *diving*. I do not like even to think about. (Mindprogramming of fear ;-) ) Other meanings of *diving*: amazing.
*sky diving* I love it. Its what I give it.
Word *kids* - uuuuuuuuuuh I gave it a bad meaning. Until I met my niece :-) Its not THAT best meaning now, but I remind me- of a different meaning.
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I thought about this *ego-thing* again. I know I still have it. On what would I know its gone? I thought its a hard way on it (no ego), but maybe it isn´t. hmmm (will think about further).
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And interesting changing on my behavior- I fear a bit to post. Scared it could be a spelling/grammar/describing thing. Or that it comes on a way *stepping on toes*…. I do not kidding about this.
I will see…
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Ye Wales won,i watched the game down my dad’s house,i don’t drink,personal choice i guess.I will try and send a photo in,i’m a bit shy tho.Pinpoint,it’s good to hear of your Welsh connection.Luv Zan xx.
artshoe ~ I’m not above saying that I too know that I have an ego. If I didn’t then what others say wouldn’t affect me. I’m learning to deal with it. I find my own self importance repungnent, it’s stifling and does me no good. It stirs up emotions that totally shut my self down, like a whirlpool spinning into a vortex of pure personal superiority.
I’m glad you posted and that you acknowledged your fear and continued to post anyways. Don’t worry about the toes. You gotta step on toes sometimes to help others see a different point of view.
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FF ~ I knew you would defend yourself. There wasn’t a personal attack in there, just an observation.
(((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))) all around!
I have read Collier domains/clone. I thought he was full of sh*t when I read him years ago, long before I came here, when I was into that kind of crap.
Peggy’s RS proved my sense of things right.
No I am not a follower except of my own intuition, which by the way has been proven correct most of the time. I don’t read most of the stuff that people are investigating now, because I already have the sense that it is bogus.
Then Peggy RSes it, and it turns out my third eye was right.
It is fine for each to investigate these things and check them out. I have been there and done that so I have a “nose” for BS. Pun intended.
I would never get in the way of anyone finding out for themselves because that is how ones develops that sense of truth.
At this point I pass things by because I have seen that most are whistlers in the wind, people who have been programmed to think that they are truth sayers when they are mouthpieces for the Reps…even when they are well intended. And RS proves this out.
RS has been the only method of uncovering this.
I don’t give a crap what you think of me. Your opinion is so embedded with arrogance as to be dust in the wind.
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You tell it FF! The truth cannot be kept quiet.
You do have an ego, hon, it is not something to be ashamed of; it can get the better of us at times, but in this realm, one cannot get rid of it. It is a concept that is much maligned and misunderstood. Another game the Reps play with us.
* artshoe, you are bolder than that. Period.
Yea zandog! Great feeling!
I don’t watch sports, but I was happy when the Giants won the Super Bowl in the last 30 seconds.
Yea for the underdog!!
Yeah Wales!!!
I follow a lot of the UK’s goodies too, my ancestry takes me back through Wales n 301 lost um when the romans were there…
Domains you speak of others being followers… that little rep repitition on the numbers was a presentation given in a board room in 3-1st Union, Charlotte, NC on the 37th floor to the new hires… of which I at the time was one… I still have a copy of my hand out… it may have been 9 years ago but this old lady isn’t that dumb…
nice play on the fallow… unplanted ground …. maybe you should start doing some reversing and find out we are not followers but pioneers, and worriers in the making…
FF you are so awesome, artshoe has a point here, he is just gathering our feelings any way he can… but that was good practice to just exnore the uneducated, though high in potentional… but a great vanacular is not what makes for a brilliant mind…and we are learning here that those who like to speak in parables are more reptillain in history than human…
Julia, how I miss the south!!!! the spanish moss was crying my name “come home” …. you are gracious to share such beauty with us…
as always Peggy has such reason, and logic… which she has aquired from RS… which the rest of us followers are learning from her….
and by being brave enough with her persistance to do our own RSings…
Oh am I yelling in my heart… sure am… divide and concur is the oldest game in the book of war… compliment a few and “commonize” the others… then the group falls apart with internal problems… you old snake, owl, whatever… you are “bad news” n reverse …
much love to my new family, and I appologize if I over stepped…
\off to work, love and huggs to all.
Tonya~ not at all on the overstepping! Well said my friend! Seeing into the heart of it, when I am seeing red; Thank you!
artshoe,
“Its just a *warn button* and a way to go on and find out more.. This is how I handle it.” Good thinking! I should have known better, yesterday was a bit trying… I know YOU know better.
On topic~so you have the US military dressed as “terrorists” busting into people’s house and calling it the Mujahedeen.
It has been shown that they do this a lot. Let’s hope that the “mad to see it” will be about the people being scandalized at being fed the same shit yet again and expected to believe it. So far it has not worked; let’s hope it fails again.
Well after my post I had a search on the topic *ego*. My guess was, anybody wants to get rid of it. I slightly remember that this is somehow a hard way. But I think, I mixed it up with Alter ego.
So I reread, here are the sources I used. (maybe somehow interesting).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_psychology
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FF and All,
I don’t even read that creature’s posts. I figured out a while ago that he/it is just a tool. I don’t give him/it my energy. And I don’t find him/it remotely intelligent, just a hugely immature energy sucking leech. I know that sounds harsh but I’ve written him/it off.
Naw we see it ourselves.
You are correct Sara…I need to not “follow” his baiting.
On Topic~ shoe on the other foot:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m40939&hd=&size=1&l=e
(snip)
If I understand this right, the US military is appalled and disturbed because some Iraqi insurgent groups (that may or may not have anything to do with Al Qaida in Iraq) are using videos to propagandize among adolescents in the hope that they will enlist. Meanwhile, the US military, which is engaged in the same type of operations as the Iraqi insurgency only as the occupying force, glorifies its mission of bloodshed, intimidation, and killing in videos, video games, in schools, on the television, at shopping malls and through the mails. Naturally, these methods are not training the US adolescents that they are targeting for operations, but they are definitely “meant to spread the US military’s message among the young (to borrow Admiral Smith’s words.)”
I don´t understand you.
I do not say domains is an easy one. But to name him creature and beat him while speaking *different* (we have fabels here too from others, and I like to speak in pics. So its rept.), or do not understand him (and don´t even ASK how he could mean something, other than to be mean ) - is shocking me.
Well, I saw a human behind it all- at least. And with a look on it *this* was visible. (And still is, around the blog).
I worked on it to see it in your ways. I can´t. He has a ability to lay fingers on weak points. But if a wound shall heal- it needs sometimes to stick in and clean it. Even if it hurts.
I fight for the family, but I don´t fight against somebody/something from what I DID NOT see the clue and only while the most do it. The quality matches here, not quantity.
I want stop here and want go on to see what you see. (Otherwise I guess I got blind somehow)
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So, what did I not see/know, what you see/know on/about domains?
Sorry guys, but I totally agree with artshoe on this one. You just can’t go around labeling people as repts and owls because you don’t get them or understand where they are coming from. It’s just plain wrong and completely unreasonable.
p.s. I don’t see it has conquer and divide. More misunderstanding than anything else.
Don’t be sorry Julia, you are entitled to you opinion.
After I was attacked by this person it took me a while to bother reading anything he wrote.
I tried and I’m done.
He is entitled to any opinion of me he wants, but I don’t have to care or engage …
so if you want to continue listening that is up to you.
Please don’t let it influence your relationship with those who do not choose as you do.
I will do the same.
You are so right Miriam! I stopped reading domains posts looooong time ago, who is just trashing here with meanningless words, no explanations and inappropriate links.
Peggy Kane A full wakeup might be best(like you said).Guess usa is holding back telling population,same time its therapy meanwhile helping the mases..Fance,mexico and others told there population,maybe usa is doing for there own agenda. Still baby steps are best :) then boom wakeup.
What mindblocks me why 20 years ago the governmets didn’t control the overpopulation prob. 2people having 2 babys evens it off 3 is building the prob. people on welfare more babys = more income. Some say no soles in the afterlife to fill void ,so new soles are being born.(by the universe).Maybe thats why Alex colliers aliens said were royalty(who knows) but mathamaticaly theres alot of soles here. I hope its not a dumb hiden agenda for mega portals. It was not alex that talked about new soles being created. I bet other worlds casterate( helps anger issues) My brothers dog would bite everyone ,when fixed anger left.
Dear Miriam and Freedom Fighter, I have wasted enough time before trying to be patient with characters like Domain .. yep I have stopped reading his drivel. he is here to disrupt the peace - he is a tool and nothing more, I have ssen his ilk on many other boards, just placed in them to cause trouble, conquer and divide people - whilst those who work through him gather the energy he creates here. I am NOT fooled by him, I am nice but I am not stupid.
There are some really lovely and wonderful people here - who are true warriors of the light and justice, they are here to exhange many ideas and to help each other get through these trying times and to help yet other seekers awaken .. not to test people and toss about supposed intelligence…
Sorry to say .. I visit this page less lately because it is just different :( Love and Hugs to ALL xoxoxoo
artshoe - great vids! Thanks for that. More info. TG - the chemtrail one is interesting in concept - GREAT PX shots too
the first vid Brings me to wonder - IF PX has a cycle of 3,67? years, why didn’t it burn the net last time? The repts were here already, for a long time. Maybe RSing the audio on that one will explain.
FF - YOu go warrior woman! I love how you stand up for yourself and don’t take any BS!
Zan - Glad your team won! Yeah, Miriam, not really a watch tv sport enthusiast but I was a Giant fan back as a kid - grew up in upstate NY. My father introducd me to the sport/team. So great they won.
I heard the last time px came around,it tried to flood the reps out,some got off planet,and some went to ground.It will be diffrent this time,it’s game over:)luv,zan.xxx.
Miriam~I would never do such a thing. I just see things differently, like you said I’m entitled to my own opinions. Right now I’m watching the dynamics of intolerance. My father has never grown up. When something frustrates him he shuts down and cannot, will not recognize that he is being unreasonable. The pup Gretchin is a hand full, mainly due to the fact that my father insist on treating animals like people. Sure it’s okay to think of them as family, but they work from a totally different language than humans, so Gretchin sees herself as the pack leader and won’t listen to him. I’ve tried to teach him how to become the pack leader, but his ears are closed because of stubborness, childishness, and know it all-ness. So now he has wrote her off. He won’t walk her, he won’t love her, won’t feed her, completely pulled away from her. He did the same thing to the family. If he feels attacked in any way he walks away. He hasn’t spoken to any of his blood relatives, nieces, nephews in years. When his brothers died (separate times) he couldn’t even bring himself to call the sister in-laws to give condolences. Why? I have know idea. He won’t talk about it. I believe I know what happened in his relationship with his eldest brother, but is it rational to write an entire group of people out of your life because your ego/pride is hurt. He would have missed the last 6 months of my brothers life if I hadn’t intervened and told him to grow up and go talk to his son. He did by the way. He went and knocked on his door and Paul said, “Hey man, come on in, how ya been?” It’s very sad for me to see how people just write eachother off because of misunderstanding. How are we to evolve as a group that realizes there is no separation between us if we allow our ego and pride to control us.
Julia, please, stop it with “ego and pride” already. This is so unfair ! Why are you defending smbd who is bulling and trashing people here?
Roxanne, hey! Are you still on MMS?
Julia .. I admire so much how you love your father. I have had very similar circumstances with my mother. I was watching her cut off her nose to spite her face with so many people under the guise of them Having hurt her - when she was not herself taking the responsibility of her own actions or inactions. I walked away for a number of years emotionally. Then one day I woke up and realized how important she was to me and I realized all of the things that happened in her life that added up to who she had become. I just loved her and became her friend again and I shared my beautiful child with her every chance I got. Slowly and cautiously she came back. When I was learning all the healing modalities I practice- I shared them all with her. I allow her - her catholicism - understanding that it is her personal comfort zone and because of her belief in it, she has grown into this wonderful marvelous loving Mother… the one I always wished for and now have. When I was down and out - her and my father carried me emotionally. I know what love is thanks to them. SO I honor you for the role you are playing in your fathers’ story. and much love and hugging to the doggie…
Now about seperation and ego and pride. As I wrote in my last post. I have seen seperation in other online groups as well as groups that I have belonged to here where I live. If there is one thing I have come to understand fully.. it is the way it feels ‘in my gut’ when someone is just not up to much good. And that is sometimes the way that a certain person posting feels on this board. What once felt like a loving and caring family is being divided .. do you think that is an accident - nope. Every well meaning group at one time or another is most likely infiltrated for a few reasons.. One may be to see what is being said… another is to inject a little poison into the discussion for shits and giggles to aggravate people and upset the balance - yet another - is to find people that will side with them and make the division bigger and stronger. People who know this when they see it or feel it - leave or stop participating. Why? because for some ( as myself ) it sometimes physically hurts to read the posts ( SO I no longer read his/hers whatever ) Sometimes the energy of the group feels bad to participate in. Sometimes it is sorrowful to watch something you once enjoyed So much … wither and die because someone is daily injecting poison.
None of this has to do with seperation nor ego..nor writing anyone off. Any of us that leave or disengage .. we do not put away our swords arrows or spears.. we simply continue the fight on our own until we meet others of like minds again.
It is no accident that all of us found each other here on this site.. I have to believe that it is a gift from our creator so that we learn we are not alone in our desire to rebuild our paradise here on earth.
Just as the creator will allow us to meet like minds and hearts, our creator will also understand that we need to meet our foes face to face to understand what we are battling and what we are battling for.
This is a great gathering of humans here and I love reading the posts, I have learned so much from reading and learning to reverse and once in a while participating. I hope this site continues to grow and attract those of like mind.. and maybe it needs to be sectioned somehow .. I have no idea how as I am not a computer wiz LOL ..
I would hate to see this cease to exist or turn a corner that is not in the best interests of ALL who visit. Just how my heart feels - my ego has nothing to do with it :)
With great respect for the lightworkers and warriors here and much love and caring .. xxxoxoo c
nadinka~I am not defending anyone. It is an observation. It is in me to watch the dynamics of what’s going on around me. As far as ego goes, sorry, but things can only affect you if you allow them too and I’ve recognized my own ego/pride dynamics and realized that is where it is coming from. People that would stir the pot used to annoy me to no end too, until I realized it was me doing that allowing. I was allowing that aspect to have control over me, my thoughts, and my interactions.
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Carole ~ My father is one of my greatest teachers unbeknowest to him. As were all the other tyrants that have come and gone in my life. And I love them all for shaking me up and setting me off balance because it made me look inside and take a good look at Julia. With every action there is a re-action. I just have a different reaction. No personal attacks, no defending. To be honest with you, I’m just waiting for someone to label me too for having an opinion.
Zan,
Congrats on the Wales victory! I’ll bet you looked cute in the kilt!
Roxanne,
The last time that PX passed, I heard that the reps pulled back the net, and sent down some of the elves to check out the situation afterwards. This is when the decision was then made to operate cloaked rather than as the “gods.” There were a lot fewer people and the net was still pretty thin. Again, they must have exerted control here and then reinforced the net to make it much stronger.
I’ve heard that this will be the third passing of PX since the reptilians’ control was set in place and this time, there is no possibility that they will stay. Their cycle is at the end. This is not a maybe, but a definite!
FF,
You are welcome to respond to domains and any other person as you see fit. You are a whirlwind warrior, mother of the bee bombers and I don’t expect any less from you.
So step up and let em have it.
We love you for it!!!!
When I was talking to the spirit man, Francis Haley, he told me one time (in his more lucid moments) that he would frequent the bars, and if anyone said anything he didn’t like, he would be the first out of the chair, fists flying. That was his way.
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We are all individuals here. Some are more quiet and loving, others jumping up from their chair. I find I do both, depending upon the situation, (And sometimes how much wine I’ve had to drink lol) But we are expressing deep feelings of frustration, pain, suffering, anger, as well as aching for this to stop, for healing, for a bright and beautiful world for all Earth’s creatures.
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So if we get into a hunahuna (as Nick and I call it) we will jump up and down, scream and shout, cry sometimes, then giggle, hug, and then play punching, laugh and feel much better.
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I don’t believe in holding back feelings (but also fighting fair). I spent more than half of my life pouting and pretending to always be a good girl and be nice.
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No more!
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But always to end up with hugs!
So I am extending a big family hug to all here.
Great Hugs, LLBs, and I’m asking Dad/Mom to join in and I’m sure He/She is.
Carol,
You are one of those who heal with love. Thank you for your beautiful, supportive, loving posts.
What is an Internet Troll/ Forum troll?
* An “Internet troll” or “Forum Troll” or “Message Board Troll” is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.
A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he is a genuine skeptic with no hidden agenda. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, “searching for the truth”, flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them.
While sometimes, he may sound like a stupid, uninformed, ignorant poster, do not be deceived! Most trolls are highly intelligent people trying to hide behind a mask of stupidity and/or ignorance! They usually have an agenda. Very few trolls come to CureZone out of pure skepticism.
A CureZone Troll is generally a person who is extremely skeptical of the main forum subject.
He is generally interested to make other forum members look stupid. A troll will sometimes use insults to provoke other people to insult him. Then, he will complain to moderators of being insulted and will request that his opponents get banned from further discussion.
It is generally very easy to troll any one of several hundreds of support forums on CureZone. As the majority of support forums on CureZone are about alternatives to commercialized medicine, all you have to do to start a flaming thread questioning the main subject of discussion and to provoke insults from hard core proponents. It has been done every few weeks. It is strictly against our rules!
Initiating debates on CureZone support forums is strictly against the rules.
CureZone has plenty of debate forums where those interested in questioning can have free rain.
Even debate forums on CureZone can be trolled by name calling and by provoking name calling. Those trolls are quickly banned from CureZone.
He (and in 90% of cases it is he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Sometimes, he is skeptical, trying to scare people, trying to plant fear in their hearts. Many curezone trolls are people trying to promote Quackwatch / ratbags agenda through fear mongering.
For many trolls, lack of hard evidence about any therapy equals “DANGER”. He will try to scare people from even trying the therapy just because there is no hard evidence that therapy is more effective then placebo.
Sometimes, Internet troll is trying to spin conflicting information, is questioning in an insincere manner, flaming discussion, insulting people, turning people against each other, harassing forum members, ignoring warnings from forum moderators.
Trolling is a form of harassment that can take over a discussion. Well meaning defenders can create chaos by responding to trolls. The best response is to ignore it, or to report a message to a forum moderator. CureZone moderators usually delete troll messages or block trolls. Negative emotions stirred up by trolls leak over into other discussions. Normally affable people can become bitter after reading an angry interchange between a troll and his victims, and this can poison previously friendly interactions between long-time users.
Finally, trolls create a paranoid environment, such that a casual criticism by a new arrival can elicit a ferocious and inappropriate backlash.
When trolls are ignored they step up their attacks, desperately seeking the attention they crave. Their messages become more and more foul, and they post ever more of them.
Alternatively, they may protest that their right to free speech is being curtailed.
Perhaps the most difficult challenge for a webmaster is deciding whether to take steps against a troll that a few people find entertaining. Some trolls do have a creative spark and have chosen to squander it on being disruptive. There is a certain perverse pleasure in watching some of them. Ultimately, though, the webmaster has to decide if the troll actually cares about putting on a good show for the regular participants, or is simply playing to an audience of one — himself.
Next time you are on a message board and you see a post by somebody whom you think is a troll, and you feel you must reply, simply write a follow-up message entitled “Troll Alert” and type only this:
The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction and not to respond to trolling messages. It is well known that most people don’t read messages that nobody responds to, while 99% of forum visitors first read the longest and the largest threads with the most answers.
* Troll Message is an outrageous message posted to a message board, newsgroup or mailing list to bait people to answer.
* Trolls of Scandinavian Mythology: another Troll, internet troll & forum troll Once upon a time, evil dwarfs were living in hills, forests and mounds. They were stumpy, misshapen, humpbacked, with a long nose, long hair and a long tail. Trolls were inclined to thieving, and fond of carrying off children. They would substitute one of their own offspring for that of a human mother. They were called “hill-people”, and they were especially averse to noise, from a recollection of the time when god Thor used to fling his hammer after them. Not all trolls were evil!. Some trolls were helping people. Some trolls were only playing games. But, evil trolls were the one that kids were most afraid of. Some trolls were small, other were giants.
Excerpts from the article
What is an Internet Troll?
An Internet “troll” is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don’t “get” that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their ‘achievement’ (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
Why does it Matter?
Some people — particularly those who have been online for years — are not upset by trolls and consider them an inevitable hazard of using the net. As the saying goes, “You can’t have a picnic without ants.”
It would be nice if everybody was so easy-going, but the sad fact is that trolls do discourage people. Established posters may leave a message board because of the arguments that trolls ignite, and lurkers (people who read but do not post) may decide that they do not want to expose themselves to abuse and thus never get involved.
Another problem is that the negative emotions stirred up by trolls leak over into other discussions. Normally affable people can become bitter after reading an angry interchange between a troll and his victims, and this can poison previously friendly interactions between long-time users.
Finally, trolls create a paranoid environment, such that a casual criticism by a new arrival can elicit a ferocious and inappropriate backlash.
The Internet is a wonderful resource which is breaking down barriers and stripping away prejudice. Trolls threaten our continued enjoyment of this beautiful forum for ideas.
The Webmaster’s Challenge
When trolls are ignored they step up their attacks, desperately seeking the attention they crave. Their messages become more and more foul, and they post ever more of them. Alternatively, they may protest that their right to free speech is being curtailed — more on this later.
The moderator of a message board may not be able to delete a troll’s messages right away, but their job is made much harder if they also have to read numerous replies to trolls. They are also forced to decide whether or not to delete posts from well-meaning folks which have the unintended effect of encouraging the troll.
Some webmasters have to endure conscientious users telling them that they are “acting like dictators” and should never delete a single message. These people may be misinformed: they may have arrived at their opinion about a troll based on the messages they see, never realizing that the webmaster has already deleted his most horrific material. Please remember that a troll does have an alternative if he has something of value to say: there are services on the net that provide messaging systems free of charge. So the troll can set up his own message board, where he can make his own decisions about the kind of content he will tolerate.
Just how much can we expect of a webmaster when it comes to preserving the principles of free speech? Some trolls find sport in determining what the breaking point is for a particular message board operator. They might post a dozen messages, each of which contains 400 lines of the letter “J”. That is a form of expression, to be sure, but would you consider it your duty to play host to such a person?
Perhaps the most difficult challenge for a webmaster is deciding whether to take steps against a troll that a few people find entertaining. Some trolls do have a creative spark and have chosen to squander it on being disruptive. There is a certain perverse pleasure in watching some of them. Ultimately, though, the webmaster has to decide if the troll actually cares about putting on a good show for the regular participants, or is simply playing to an audience of one — himself.
What about Free Speech?
When trolls find that their efforts are being successfully resisted, they often complain that their right to free speech is being infringed. Let us examine that claim.
While most people on the Internet are ardent defenders of free speech, it is not an absolute right; there are practical limitations. For example, you may not scream out “Fire!” in a crowded theatre, and you may not make jokes about bombs while waiting to board an airplane. We accept these limitations because we recognize that they serve a greater good.
Another useful example is the control of the radio frequency spectrum. You might wish to set up a powerful radio station to broadcast your ideas, but you cannot do so without applying for a license. Again, this is a practical limitation: if everybody broadcasted without restriction, the repercussions would be annoying at best and life-threatening at worst.
The radio example is helpful for another reason: with countless people having a legitimate need to use radio communications, it is important to ensure that nobody is ‘monopolizing the channel’. There are only so many clear channels available in each frequency band and these must be shared.
When a troll attacks a message board, he generally posts a lot of messages. Even if his messages are not particularly inflammatory, they can be so numerous that they drown out the regular conversations (this is known as ‘flooding’). Needless to say, no one person’s opinions can be allowed to monopolize a channel.
The ultimate response to the ‘free speech’ argument is this: while we may have the right to say more or less whatever we want, we do not have the right to say it wherever we want. You may feel strongly about the fact that your neighbor has not mowed his lawn for two months, but you do not have the right to berate him in his own living room. Similarly, if a webmaster tells a troll that he is not welcome, the troll has no “right” to remain. This is particularly true on the numerous free communications services offered on the net. (On pay systems, the troll might be justified in asking for a refund.)
Conclusion
Next time you are on a message board and you see a post by somebody whom you think is a troll, and you feel you must reply, simply write a follow-up message entitled “Troll Alert” and type only this:
The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.
By posting such a message, you let the troll know that you know what he is, and that you are not going to get dragged into his twisted little hobby.
Well domains, These have certainly been a very insightful, and informative posts. No one can ever call you predictable.
Thank you as I now have a much clearer picture of “trolls.”
Peggy, Zandog - thanks for the reminder about last time PX came. does anyone know when Noah’s ark thing happened? 3,67? years ago? Did you catch in the vid that it says explicitly 2008!!!!!!!!!!!
Zoiks! I AM SO READTY!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugs, Roxanne
ps - I miss ya Sis. so much. I am caught in the net here in Tucson and can’t get out!!!! LOL!!!! (Job, car stuff) But I did get to do some art last night and in the middle of the night when I woke up. For the dinnerware donation thing. I did some new stuff.
Hugs to all….
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YOIKS! MY smoke alarm just went off. I forgot and left the water boiling on the stove!!!
Roxanne dec 2008 ..jesus was born -4 not 0..But maybe the mayans new this so should be 2012 .
ww3 2008-9? russa told usa not to enter iran . somes say there working togeather to depopulate.
Dont worry be happy.
Julia and carole~ that is great that you were able to heal and rejoin with your family….
You chose to handle difficulties in your life in a certain way. It is not the way of all people, the only way, or the only right way.
It is *your* way and it works for you. Blessings on that! It is a sincere path for you. It cannot be foisted on another.
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I RSed my father and found he has a rep in him.
They completely abuse him in horrible ways when he was unable to corral me back into a relationship with him…one that might start off cautiously kind enough but as soon as my guard would go down, be incredibly abusive, as they took him over.
I developed serious immune disorders because of my years of abuse at his(the reps) hands and the patterns of relating to people I developed.
When I was 47, I was terrified when I finally said before a visit that we needed “ground rules”. I was immediately attacked, and he ended up tearing into me.
It was my confronting him and exposing him that allowed me to break away and gain my freedom.
I have healed an incredible amount. I am not going to give that up for a Rep.
I understand perfectly well what he has gone thru. I forgive him, and I can’t wait for PX to come and heal him, so that I can be reunited with my family, who considers me a black sheep.
So I am careful who I allow into my fold. I have been targeted and abused by many groups, and have managed to escape and put myself back together again too many times.
Why? because I speak the truth. I have done the “kind” thing to no avail, I have done the “jump and fight” to no avail. So now I am just me, take it or leave it. I am kind as I see the need, I am a “scrapper” as I see the need. And I no longer care what someone thinks of me(except when my wounds get activated by rep attacks…but that is a different problem that is mine to deal with). So I guess I don’t have an “ego”.
(Misunderstood concept~ wiki not withstanding~ psych 101 in 500 words or less.).
I do not relish those “shake up” experiences. Serious damage on the physical and psychic level has been done. Try walking in my mocassins…But I did learn to be myself and be much more careful about who I open up to…still I am very trusting to a fault.
I choose my friends and I disregard others. MY choice. Not someone else’s who will try to shame me into accepting another out of a word called “ego” or “tolerance”. Been there done that…which is where my difficulties came from…trying to fit into a mold of someone else’s making.
Whatever works for you, works …Bless you and do it.
Nor do I buy into “gee, if people don’t agree with my opinions I can’t post any more”. Post all you want, and if you are not agreed with, don’t let your “ego” get involved. Continue the discussion. Make a Stand.
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All this stuff ultimately is The Rep Agenda, trying to divide us.
carole~ your post was so great about that.
Peggy, your thoughts are the ones of the *most* tolerance and acceptance~ react however you react, and others don’t react if you don’t want to.
What is important is to be sincere in these feelings
How perfect is that!!
A Rep Agenda?
In computerland there should be less of a personal ego afect..If someone has a ego here ,imagin what reality holds.
Peggy, anxiously awaiting what you get on the cut cables. Apparently there is now yet another cut effecting China.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/iNP/view.asp?ID=5536
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This should be very interesting, the story that RS will tell on this.
A Rep Agenda=Reptilian Agenda~ you understand what I mean?
What we are fighting against on a microcosm of personal interaction and the macrocosm of global interaction.
Triggers on all levels that are built in to get us to argue personally, and globally.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
A troll will sometimes use insults to provoke other people to insult him. Then, he will complain to moderators of being insulted and will request that his opponents get banned from further discussion.
I see posts, done with a lack of the whole language not as metaphorical speech. Maybe I was able to *walk into this persons shoes*, because of my lack. But this means too- I speak more than one language and at least I want people understand.
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And I wonder how many people refuse to even ask anything here on this site while reading what goes on here. A *new* one maybe don´t see so *clear* thats its rept. They see *man-hunt*. This is what I see and feel here. And again I want make a clear statement- I´m don´t join the man-hunt.
I understand the posts, and when THIS person is treated, I feel treated too. I like the pictures he create with words, I do too. So I guess, at least I am target sometime. I wrote about, its maybe an implant or a rept cloaked. But some are honored to know me. And btw, where is *when artshoe is posting something, than I listen/look closer. Precog. So either this was just a phrase, or I changed so dramatically, that I´m further not trustworth(Y). What leads to- yes, I post for Peggy and Julia. Maybe I do. And yes, I thought about not to post - but have any of you thought about which picture YOU gave with your posts ON PEGGYs site and so to her work?
Ignoring is somehow easy. To look away too. So lets ignore that domains- this creature who let the rept speak. Miriam, no offend- but your daughter is hearing voices too. She has the luck that a family cares for her. This person has maybe just his uncle and this site here, which *claims* to a family. We dont choose a family (since we don´t agree with the reincarnation). So domains is a family member. Maybe even if he is a *troll*. I too was upset to feel ignored.
And you - Miriam *forgave* your father (why not bring to jail. Domains was judged easy.)
Yes, ignoring is so easy. Now you (rhetorically) maybe understand, why the german people did nothing against the concentration camps.
Well, not all. But the most fake to sleep and go on to the happy life. Yes, lets focus on the happy site of live. Happy shiny people.
And more- he did RS. I you had read what he wrote you would have know. How many here do NO RS, and are *entitled* to post anyway? Why not bashing on them: BUY a mic; DO it- otherwise I dont read your posts. No offend, just what I read here and remember.
I too was not able to think about a *Family Hug*. I thought to hold back LLBs too. But know what- I boost some out, what they do isn´t my intent: shielding or kicking hard cloaked reptilians.
I sent domains LLBs, I even told him so during the battle we had. At least its for a breathtaking for him. Did you ignore his post: sometimes crying at night. Do you know how it feels to ask for *help* for yourself? I know. Its like moving thru a desert with no chance to see any water.
I thought about to post, and if it was wrong to shield domains against shiny happy people after I read about the trolls….. And I came to the same conclusion I had, after shielding a drunken helpless man against some nice guys (whom are well known hooligans here, and even if I had known.) : I stand up for the beated, even if I am the only one and even if I get hurt.
And its a shame to argue with Julia either.
Guess the masses are right, and were one goes the others support.
Yes- for shiny happy people.
I still see Peggys *light in the window for the homecoming*. And this reminds me of the poster I saw *homeland and exil*.
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I´ll post this in YR7 too.
I was not trying to shame anyone by using the word ego Miriam. I just made a statement of an observation. When we feel offended by another we are in essence defeated, because we lower our vibration by acting out in anger and in doing so lose ourselves, our power. It is in the allowing of another to shake us up that draws us into the web. I choose to recognize this, that’s all.
Soooooooo, if indeed it is a rep agenda in allowing ourselves to get shaken, we are allowing that rep agenda power over us.
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Never change love, you are definately one of a KIND.
Indeed Julia! And that can occur thru an agent who is wittingly participating or not!
But we are not perfect in guarding ourselves against this type of attack all the time.
Sometimes we fall.
AND sometimes the agent needs to be exposed so that those who have succumbed to the trigger can shake themselves and say oops.
But while the argument of whether to speak or not speak continues, the loosh is collected and the harmony disrupted.
I can’t deny that I get “shaken”; I am part of the world as are we all…
I appreciate when someone speaks up and says Rep Attack! The person in question can either shake themselves awake or leave, and the participants that got drawn in can shake themselves and poke the reps in their eyes with a pencil.
Sometimes you need a catalyst to break out of the cycle.
My point being that as a warrior we should always make an effort to have control over our own selves. And for the record, I am not arguing, never was.
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We are all trolls to our beliefs systems, but keep in mind this is computerland. Theres no personal here ..we just share our thoughts and move on. Bashing feeds my fire because i like mind games ..but its all in fun. I never did any dividing here to my fathom, brown nosing or putting others on pedastalls is a form of expressing your thoughts onto other in a negative way. When you bash me its ok ..i like human afect ..but never paranoid and call me rep or agent, because then you throw your belief system on others. ff and Miriam lol its all in fun .just getting you to think without ego.
artshoe shiny happy people..love that group . or Losing My Religion..o no i said to much.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=9101348955154679840&q=bitch&total=113413&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
joke link…
Miriam, when you feel shaken - *I hope you dance*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIAWY4LLsEw
Lee Ann Womack
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Julia~ I think we all do make that effort. ;>
My point is we are not always going to win. That is the battle! And the last thing anyone needs when they have fallen prey to the Rep Agenda is someone saying~
You should know better.
Well sometimes yes and sometimes no…depends on the Warrior. ;>
I love you you Julia, You are a sweet and kind and beautiful person, and I enjoy your thoughts and your trees, and Gretchin, and your garden!
Flatlands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4
artshoe~ I wrote to you on YR7; better place for this.
Thank you domains, to wrote that to Miriam and FF.
And yes, the song fits you ;-)
(the link is : Meredith Brooks *I´m a bitch*)
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I guess with *I like mind-games* you mean *let the mind rattle/working* - looking for a battle-like situation, to know how good the own mind is working.
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I will see how it works on when your voices take over. At least I send LLBs. LOL
are we fine now? ff and Miriam?
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3327473293373016718&q=SEETHER&total=7446&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
We are all dancing all the time even if we don’t know it.
And when we do it is GRAND!
artshoe and Domains ~ I love both of those songs.
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Miriam ~ I never said, you should know better. But if someone didn’t know better, maybe they learned something knew.
Love you too…..PEACE
spelling correction. Knew=New
…as a warrior we SHOULD ALWAYS make an effort to have control over our own selves.
..just another way of putting it in another world.
SHOULD ALWAYS “MAKE AN EFFORT”. Should always, is not Should know better. Sorry you see it that way.
wagging the finger…in some worlds…
I always imagined creator could not expose in time frame ,because of tv or music. Only the strong or right place right time.
Artshoe, ((waving hand in air)) it was me that wrote “…And btw, where is *when artshoe is posting something, than I listen/look closer. Precog. So either this was just a phrase, or I changed so dramatically, that I´m further not trustworth(Y)…”
I’ve not changed my feeling on that thought, I’ve just chosen to not get involved in the big ole loosh-drama thing with clone/domains. However, I have to admit that the posting of that porn (and gross porn at that) link then followed by his basically kissing your ass and belittling the rest of us all in one fail swoop post does not endear him to me. I am quite leery of him, but that is just my humble opinion. You and he have obviously connected on some level(s) and I respect that.
Let’s all just get back to focusing on the RS, shall we? I mean PX is coming this year!! Now is the time to rejoice, not have division and strife. XO
Why the hell I did I don’t know…damn reps bastards…
Imagin jesus trying to save us..But now in future the stakes are higher .Tv will expose him in time helping foe. He has to be rencarnated by on a diemetion level where bending spoons is childs play. what can be done…..maybe thats why cant get involved with developing races. both sides are not exposing ..so it becomes a stand still.
Miriam ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOwUNTN0kNs
Hoobastank - The Reason
I’m not a perfect person
As many things I wish I didn’t do
But I continue learning
I never meant to do those things to you
And so I have to say before I go
That I just want you to know
I’ve found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
And the reason is you
I’m sorry that I hurt you
It’s something I must live with everyday
And all the pain I put you through
I wish that I could take it all away
And be the one who catches all your tears
That’s why I need you to hear
I’ve found a resaon for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
And the reason is you
And the reason is you
And the reason is you
And the reason is you
I’m not a perfect person
I never meant to do those things to you
And so I have to say before I go
That I just want you to know
I’ve found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
And the reason is you
I’ve found a reason to show
A side of me you didn’t know
A reason for all that I do
And the reason is you (less)
Julia weird you would post that..I almost picked that song to explain myself.
The worlds connecting i guess. 11:11
Peggy- I find the time periods concerning the last 2 passes of PX to be confusing. Some say it passes every ~26,000 years, some like video above say every 3,657 years. I have read in quite a few different places that this will be the third pass. What makes it more confusing is not knowing just how long the Reptiles have been in control here. Most sources (hard to know what is accurate) always say several hundred thousand years.
Have you seen anything in your research concerning the time periods when the last passings of PX took place? Thank you
right time?
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6498117482841046422&q=corrs+the+right+time&total=71&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
ironic domains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v9yUVgrmPY
heres a song about my exwife(red hair) no pun intended. shes into drugs weights 85pounds.my son is related to that jean pool.I never diss her infront of him.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5346459575416865106&q=Ace+of+Base&total=3135&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
Singers are exposed in dayjavu. But still nice poems..
check this guy out…part 1 kinda boring…
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2904/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_2_15/
maybe people cant back up the limks…
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2905/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_3_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2906/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_4_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2907/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_5_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2908/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_6_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2909/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_7_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2910/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_8_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2911/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt_9_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2912/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt10_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2913/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt11_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2914/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt12_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2916/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt14_15/
mixed up 13 14 15 …sorry http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2915/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt13_15/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2917/The_Invisible_Landscape_Mind_Hallucinogens_Pt15_15/
I’m no prude when it comes to hallucinogenic drugs, but I can’t even smoke a joint without having to puke and then pass out. I can’t eat it or smoke it. So I learned early on, not to indulge (except wine, oh well, I never said I was perfect.) But I know now, after listening to the David Icke and Stewart Wilde audio that ayahausca gave the snake an open invitation to mess with their minds.
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I’ve heard that even pot can mess with one’s perception. If anyone is doing any kind of hallucinogenics, they should try reversing themselves and see what they have to say about it. (If one is brave enough.) It takes guts to do this.
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It would also be interesting to reverse people talking about their experiences with magic mushrooms, peyote, or any other mind altering substances. I would lay money on the table that all of their brilliance while under the influence would sound like they were being fed a Looneytoons version of reality even though they think they are getting higher states of consciousness.
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The mind is the reptilians playground. The more we make ourselves vulnerable to their machinations, the more they will get in there and whisper, give visions, tell lies, manipulate some of our dreams, make us paranoid, and ultimately allow full-blown possession.
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In the Wilde audio, he makes reference in reverse to the ayahuasca, gives the snake easier access so as to possess that person. The snake may not be there all the time, but the barriers are down and the door can easily be opened.
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This is why shielding is so important. This is also why reversing is important. You won’t bull shit yourself in reverse.
FreeAtLast,
The 3600 time frame is closer to the truth than the 26,000. I’ve also heard as you said, that this will be the third pass since the reptilians took over Earth and this time they are getting kicked off. This time is different as it is the end of their cycle of terror here. This is a guarantee as the One has said so over and over in different reversals.
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The reptilians would spread like a cancer to other places and enough is enough. That is a simple fact.
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My take on timing is that events will play out this year. I’m always hesitant about time frames as time is a false concept here, but over and over in reverse, this year is it. The elections won’t happen here this fall as events will be in full swing. So I use that as a time frame since it is a definite event, and in reverse, it isn’t happening.
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I also have many reversals that refer to PX in August. I can’t say for sure if that means it will actually pass in August, or we will see it in August. Also, I’ve heard that the big exodus of the reps will be May.
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One way or another, over and over, we are hearing this 2008 is the year. We’re in it now, so we don’t have long to wait and see what happens.
RE: elections.
I have watch elections and the Conventions for many years now. I have never seen them held so late in the year.
Typically they are held in July and early August.
This year it is late August and early Sept.
What with the info we have here, it means to me that they are figuring that they won’t need the conventions after all.
Forget the DMT experience ,the guys still bright with mathamatics ,china tool,mayan calandar.
Peggy Kane and i feel psychic works better for my Intuition..i still reverse from time to time ..and the link i posted ..you cant just find negative in a picture and dismiss the hole story..the guy in story was explaining other aspects (like why is time speeding up). you can be pissed all you want. its my story and im sticking to it.
My youtube account is “domains33″ seeing theres no privite chat here. two people here i would love to invite for a nice friendy one on one.
Domains,
Now why would I be pissed off LOL? This isn’t a tightly controlled, you have to believe everything I say or else, kind of place. You may have noticed that there is a free flowing kind of discussion that takes place here.
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But I reverse and that is what I’ve come to depend upon because you just can’t give yourself what you want to believe. You get the truth and that’s that.
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The reptilians are consummate mind controllers, and mind manipulators. They can stimulate the right temporal lobe and give a person, music, visions, out of body experiences. The mind is like a road map for them. They just know where to poke and prod, where to give a little spark and wala, we get what they want us to get, like a conductor leading the orchestra.
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RS cuts through all of that and works hard to tell us that we are being played like an instrument and to WAKE UP.
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If intuition were always accurate, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in.
My mind has a firewall of no meditation and my anti virus updated with vitemin c . I think your cool ,im just throwing my thoughts in time.no pun intended, I feel your not a clone and you did great things. A clone is a program that obays ..you fight for your right to express yourself ..maybe reverse said theres clones and you thought ment you.
poem hold your breath is a lie ..hold it filter it and own it.
Hi, im new here but very interesting reading. I guess you can say im starting to think outside the box.
Domains,
I know many who are clones, but I don’t say anything. Why hurt people? A clone is not a program that obeys, it is a new body where the mental program has been downloaded. This includes memories, emotions, the whole package.
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I think the reps thought that clones would be much more manageable then they have turned out to be. When I first started to hear about all of this cloning, I knew that some friends of mine were, and it made me first, very sad, angry and then also nervous. I didn’t know if they knew they were for sure, nor did I know how to act around them, or if they might do something negative and harmful, so I reversed.
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I told myself that the clones are really the same in essence as the original. They are beloved of the One, and are just as important and viable. They have the life force and spirit given by the Creator to all life.
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They are victims of circumstance. They didn’t conspire to be a clone or to deceive. One very clear reversals that came up here a while back was that the “Mirrors would find the love of their families as God takes the net.”
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I readily admitted to being cloned as I had at first, been horribly upset, then felt just as good, and strong as ever. I knew that many will find out that they too are not the originals and that my experience would be helpful.
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We are all connected, all a part of the One. It is how you live, and your actions that count, not the body, cloned or otherwise.
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The clones in positions of power are rarely ever as bad sounding as the original human pawns. They are mostly frightened, sad, and victimized.
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All this will be made right in the end.
Welcome Joe,
We’re so far outside of the box here, that we can’t even see the box anymore. LOL!
Welcome Joe!
Peggy Kane ok ..I thought you ment you were a borg clone few months ago.sorry
Domains, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a borg clone in reverse. I’ve listened to a lot of power people-clones though. Bush used to be much more icky, with the thing inside of him always wanting to screw little boys and eat children and truly horrible stuff. Towards the end, he got very schitzoid. I heard the human say, “There’s a ghost inside”. He was getting so screwed up that his reversals were even kind of voice overlays. I wish I still had that audio, but I’ve lost it.
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The entity inside of him kept saying that they had to keep this idiot going for a little while longer, keep him drugged, calm, looking ok.
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This was back when he was getting very bad publicity for his behavior.
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Then suddenly, he was very calm just before a State of the Union speech several years ago. I listened to him being interviewed by Bob Shiever of CBS news and while reversing, I heard Shiever say “I’m talking to a clone”. This was the first time I had heard of the cloning situation. He was the first that I had ever heard in reverse.
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The cloned Bush was doing what he had to do, but seemed more “human” than the original. That is where in the “Cloned” category you hear him say “I died, went to hell.”
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Slowly he began to be more icky, although hardly ever saying anything of value. He just seems to be a dud. I haven’t gotten an important reversal from him in quite a while.
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After Cheney was cloned, he said in reverse “I don’t swear as much as the original.” Sometimes the clones have physical problems and that is why he shot his hunting partner. He was having spasms.
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I’ve heard that clones don’t hold up as well physically as the originals.
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Anyway, nope, I’m not a borg clone.
It was a few months back you said ,I told my family I was a clone and ,people here said your so brave, were all ape clones i guess(not sure tho) they say we have ape hands and there feet. anyways always wondered and never asked. I thought it ment you were like bill,bush expl and was just a nice person that couldn’t be sided.
oo ya happy birthday, and many more.
Just found out its a lie ..not your B D ..see how lies spread :)
Sometimes though they don’t have to clone and replace they can get a programmed person give them face work and have them replace the higher ups. Loohan’s saying that the current VP is actually just someone who was made to look like him. So it makes sense when you reverse he says I don’t swear as much as him cause it’s a different guy even in dna. But, he has said that Bush and Ms. Clinton are clones now. I don’t know why they take that approach with some of them perhaps even their clone wouldn’t do what they want? Anyway it’s a very mix and match situation going with limitless tech you can play all sorts of games. But, in the end the game is: Control. However they can get it.
FreetAtLast,
James McCanney says there are many PX’s because he considers anything that is a large object coming through our solar system to be that. Well, right now we are going through quite a patch of massive things coming in here and by us. I got in reverse there would be more. Every so many thousands of years we must enter this cycle of purification or cataclysm however you want to view it.
sb- Thanks for the insight. Good to have you back on board. I am counting down the days to spring here in Kansas City and the arrival of PX.